Once upon a time, a buyer bought this Hermes Birkin from a trusted store that sells second hand bags. After using the bag for quite some time, she wanted to send the bag to Hermes Paris for maintenance. So, she brought the bag to Hermes Greenbelt which accepted it. As a local franchisee, Hermes Greenbelt was in charged of forwarding it to Hermes Paris.
After a few months, this shocking letter came with the bag:
The bag is a counterfeit and it escaped the eyes of the people in Hermes Greenbelt. I spoke to Dennis Robles, who is a trusted Hermes reseller about this and according to him, he knew immediately that it was a fake when he inspected the bag because of the stitching.
May this be a big reminder to would-be buyers to be more vigilant in their purchases of pricey branded items. Always trust your intuition. When in doubt, it will not hurt to ask opinions from not just one, but at least two experts.
Ouchie!!
ReplyDeleteIts so hard to buy second hand bags especially if u are not so familiar with the details..
DeleteThe store should have trained their staff well. In the first place they should know already na its fake.
Cruella
Let this be reminder to all that if u cant afford to buy a handbag from their shop, wag na maging social climber!
DeleteTAMMMMMMUH!
DeleteShocking indeed! Nacacaloca. Kaya ako happy na ako sa samsonite messenger bag ko. Haha!
ReplyDeleteBut why accept it in the first place?? Hermes Greenbelt should have known better. Grabey
ReplyDeleteIt might mean na walang training ang mga staff ng Hermes Greenbelt. Kalowka ha!
DeleteKapi Kat
fyi. nde pwede magauthenticate ang sales ng greenbelt.craftsmen from Paris lang ang pwede magissue ng letter of authentication. di sila parang LV. and besides kng repair sinabi ng client edi for sure pinadala lang nila.. di cla pwede magbigay ng judgement kht alam nila na mukhang japeyks!! so dapat kse first hand lang binibili...
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ReplyDeleteWho is this? Hmm can't think of any.
ReplyDeleteNot about the person but about the bag. Dapat lang next time, maging maingat sa pagbili. Nakakahiya naman kasi pinadala pa sa Paris.
DeleteBut where is the shop? I think people should know that too.
DeleteOmg!! Sa may B boutique kaya ito. Known for selling 'original' second hand bags near gbelt and pasay rd?? Wag sana as im planning to buy from them pa naman. ;(
ReplyDelete-shortcake
Dont want to sound kontrabida, pero ano bang meron sa bag na yan at parang "its a must have"? Unless sobra sobra na ang kaperahan e di go! Why not?
DeleteKahit na may pera ako, hindi pa din ako bibili ng bag ba yan swear! San ba yari yun balat na yan? Sa chever ba? Peace! Lol
agree! pero nakaka pagtaka lang, the bag was bought second hand tapos ipapadala sa Paris for maintenance? parang ang labo? you cannot afford to buy a brand new pero you can afford to send it overseas for maintenance? hmmmm....
DeleteAnonymous 12:25 AM, kung ikaw ba ay kumikita ng P500,000 to 1M per week won't you buy it? :) hehehehe
Deleteyup, feeling ko, dun nga ito sa B boutique. To think ilang tumbling lang ang layo nito sa Hermes Gbelt. Sana bago tinanggap ng B boutique from the seller, pina-authenticate muna nila!
DeleteAnonymous 9:36 am. Kahit pa maging super yaman ako. No way. Di ako mag bu buy. Unless made of skin ng chever, at least paghinimas mo, magiging maleta na agad. Hermes cum maleta! Peace!
DeleteAnon 5:46 AM, kung naka-afford ka bumili ng sobrang mahal na bag, most likely kaya mo ren magpa-ship abroad for maintenance. Ginagawa yung ganong maintenance sa mga mamahaling items para linisin o ayusin para magmukhang mas bago at para na rin gawan ng mga kung ano-ano pa para mabawasan ang 'wear and tear' na nangyari na at mangyayari pa. Ginagawa din ito sa mga mamahaling relos. FYI lang sa mga curious din. Enjoy the rest of the day, folks!
DeleteAnonymous 5:46 AM, hindi ganon kamahal magpadala sa abroad para sa maintenance. I think mahal pa ang round-trip ticket kung ikaw mismo ang magdadala sa Paris kaya walang kaso yun.
Deletemaraming bumibili ng Hermes kase its a good investment too. Ang ganda ng re-sale value nya. Hindi katulad ng ibang brands esp. LV, pag naluma na ang style, and u decide to sell it ... halos pamigay na lang ang price. mas nakakahinayang.
DeleteMay Spa for bags ang Hermes, 35K only. Hindi nakakapagtaka yun. What is 35K? Compared sa pagbili mo ng second hand Hermes na mahal rin naman.
Deleteanomymous 11:58 am
Deleteang OA mo ha..pag nagbagsak presyo ang LV isa lang ang ibig sabihin nun...it wasnt genuine to begin with....pakilala mo nga sa kin ang nagpapamigay ng LV
Anon 1158
DeleteFyi LV's bag are classic. Oo they have yung seasonal ones but mahal pa rin are resale value ng LV. Di nagbabaa ng presyo ang LV.
yep, maganda ang resale value ng LV, just like chanel and hermes. and super mahal pa din ang value ng pre-owned birkin, minimum of Php 250K pa din yun, so dapat lang talaga alagaan.
Deletei once went to a shop selling pre owned bags in makati and super daming birkin! ang alam ko, limited number lang ang nilalabas ng hermes, so bakit ang daming nagkalat dun sa shop na yun. i didnt bother visitng again after that kase feeling ko fake mga supplies nila
DeleteDi nakakapagtaka yun bec a 2nd hand H bag is still pricey by any standard. It's really an investment. So understandable na iniingatan talaga ang investment, right?
DeleteWhat I meant by halos pamigay na Lang ang price is based on my own experience. A LV that I bought 5 years ago will only sell for less than 50% of original cost. That's what I meant by nakakahinayang. Unlike ang Hermes, particularly the Birkin! Maganda resale value Nya talaga :)
DeleteYoung common style lang siguro LV mo like speedy at overused pa kya mura mo nabenta malamang dark brown na handle ng bag mo
DeleteOct 10, 9:40am
DeleteTomooooohhhhhhh! - parloristang tomboy
anon 9:40 am
Deleteows di nga. ano style ng lv mo and how much?
if you really had one and sold it at less than half the price its either sobrang gipit k na thats why you accepted the low price or binarabal mo yung bag kaya nawala value, either way its your fault not lv's
san ung b boutique?
Deleteang sarap mag comment dito... nagtatalo dahil sa bag.. mayayaman ba talaga kau ng sobra? kasi kung OO.. hnd lang kayo mag aaksaya ng panahon na magbasa sa site na to.. no offence kay FP ah kasi reader talaga ako dto... pero kung maglaitan kasi tong mga kapwa ko e.. akala mo naman ang yayaman.. peace**
Deletenakkahiya nakarating pa sa paris yung fake na hermes... dapat alam ng hermes greenbelt na fake yung bag hindi yun cheapangga kaya may strict criteria sa pag check, it's their job at sa mga buyer ingat ingat double check din!
ReplyDeleteDapat talaga alam ng Hermes Greenbelt. Baka loko din yung isa sa mga staff ng Greenbelt at pinalitan yung original into a fake one at inuwi na yung orig.
DeleteSAs all over the world are not allowed to authenticate.. only craftsmen from PAris...
Deletebumili kac ng first hand....
ReplyDeletemahal masyado! hindi lahat afford bumili ng Php 500K-3M bag! kahit pre owned nasa Php 300K na (depending on the size and leather)! so, dear, wag masyado feeling humirit, unless si jinky pacquiao ka hahaha
DeleteOr La Greta! Taray!
DeleteOr Sharon Cuneta!
DeleteKinalimutan nyo akuh!!! - mommy dionesia
DeleteHaha oo nga nman mommy dionisia kinalimutan k ahihi
DeletePalagyan na kaya lahat ng hermes ng plate number with matching or/cr. sa LTO mag pa register! So lame gbelt branch. So stupid should i say!
ReplyDeletedios ko! mag bayong na ang gamitin, eco friendly pa!
ReplyDeleteibig sabihin, magaling talaga ang fakers! i wonder how much the bag was bought for.
ReplyDeleteneyks tym pg bumele kayu ng eyrmes bag isama ninyu akoh at nang masuri koh muna!
ReplyDelete-mommy dioning
Hihi
DeleteWhen it comes to things like this..nawawala ang saysay kung sa kani kaninong reseller lang binili. Maybe hindi rin talaga alam nung reseller na fake yung goods nya kasi kinuha din nya yun sa isa pang seller. U really need to buy goods sa actual store or authorized resellers/boutique
ReplyDeleteSometimes nga kahit pinabili mo sa Hermes store parang mag duda ka pa din kung hindi mo hawak yung Official Receipt.
I agree with you...mahirap tlga pag sa reseller bumili. Kasi bka sila mismo, ( sa galing ng counterfeiters ngayon) nakalusot sa authentication nila. Kaya buy nalang sa mismong shop. But we also have to be wary kasi a few years back meron ako narinig na bumiyahe abroad, gamit yun (v)acation (L)eave bag nya, naharang siya sa aborad, and she found out fake pala si bag nya! The catch was she bought it sa GB boutique ng vacation leave! This was told to me first hand by an eyewitness...ksma nya sa delegation yun naharang.
DeleteAnonymousOctober 8, 2012 6:07 AM
Deleteyes nasagap ko din yan. mas masakit yun kasi u bought it at the store pero i think if u still have the receipt kahit papano baka pwede mo sila habulin for that error.
for bag lovers who really want quality bags and hindi yung image that comes with it, marami pa naman ibang brands jan. Admittedly best of the best ang Hermes pero may stigma narin kasi..like if u carry one, alam na ng buong Pilipinas kung ano yun and how much courtesy of JP and kung totoo ba yung hawak mo..pagdudahan pa pagkatao mo.
Even the Posh one has moved on already
anonymous october 8, 2012 6:07
Deletei seriously doubt your story told to you by an "eyewitness" . there is no way that local franchise would sell fake goods...interpol ang katapat nila ....malamang nagpabili yun sa may kakilala kuno sa GB branch ng authentic kuno at a cheaper price..
nakapasok kami nun sa LV hk fake ang dalang lv bag ng kassama ko di nman sya tinaboy
My sentiments exactly 6:07AM. Actually i buy from this learher reseller/tannery sa bulacan. You can have your bag custom made for you, you can even requet them to stamp your initials. Give them a style or you can have them design one for you. For a few thousand peos, great quality and craftsmanship pa. I asked them to make two bags for me and im very happy with my bags, they also sell crocodile leather...pati lining ng bags na pinagawa ko, suede. The birkin really has lost its appeal becoz of jp and dp. Hahaha....
Delete-parloristang tomboy
I think the vacation leave shop 'settled' with the person na naharang. Ang alam ko pa nga, nahuli daw yun SA na yun. Sinibak ng bonggang bongga! But it meas na di maganda security nun boutique that time.
DeleteTo oct 8 2:09 PM
DeleteI heard this story too....yun pinagusapan ni 6:07 AM and 1PM....hindi po sa LOOB ng vacation leave shop nangyari to. Hindi tlga magbebenta ng fake ang mismong vacation leave. I think meron din isang comment dito about the SA culprit sa vacation leave shop. BKA kasi itong si SA nagswitch ng authentic sa fekenise db? Maabilidad...bka naipuslit nya? Just my two cents 2:09PM
AnonymousOctober 8, 2012 4:17 PM
Deleteor maybe the customer bought from the SA who can sell it at a lower price kasi they have employee discount . kaya lang baka fake binigay ni SA sa buyer which means kumita pa sya ng mas malaki. kasi kung naisama sa stock nung store yung fake mukhang walang connect..nothing to gain..or a fake was used to replace a stolen/lost item?!
To Oct. 8 2:27PM, can you give the contact info of your bag maker, thanks! :p
DeleteTo oct 9 2012, 12:29AM
DeleteYou might have heard of them already....try googling chelsileathershop, to contact macy lazaro. Im not sure kasi if their numbers with me are still ok. Anyway 09228336022. Hope you like their quality and craftsmanship. - oct 8, 2:27pm
Anon 11:56pm,
DeleteMe point ka...bka nga. Bumili dun sa SA tapos ang binigay ni SA superfake. Kaya kumita ng bongga si SA. As of now the vacation leave shop has services for hot stamping. Kaya wag na mag avail ng employee discount, derecho ka sa boutique bumili, AT pa hot stamp mo ng ng initials mo! Hehe. Kaya if ever napasahan ka ng fekenese, bring agad sa vacation leAve shop at mag BF (bitch fit) dun! Hahaha
Bakit kasi bumibili ng 2nd hand? Kung hindi afford bumili ng brand new, buy na lang sa tiangge greenhills. At least alam mong fake talaga.
ReplyDeleteAng laki ng point mo..
Deletegood advice! either bumili ka ng totoo or yung alam mong fake. nothing wrong with a fabulous fake rin naman, di ba?
Deletebuying fake is pathetic - utak third world. just buy another brand if you can't afford it. ok na yung hindi mahal, pero maganda naman. at least you dont buy fake.
Deletewholeheartedly agree with anon 3:41pm, if you can't buy the bag in one blow you can't afford it. buying a 2nd hand bag then paying it in 8-12 gives means you can't afford it. putting it on your credit card then not eating lunch or purchasing anything else for months on end means you cannot afford it. go for nice bags that you can afford, always bear in mind that material things do not define who you are.
Deletenakatipid sya cguro mga 150 K by buying second hand then now fake pala, mas nadoble pa ang gastos plus kahihiyan
ReplyDeleteWhat if authentic talaga sya pero may nag switch ng fake? Pwede rin mangyari yun. Dapat merong way na may tamper proof stamp with the initial or name ng owner na pwede ilagaw sa isang part ng bag. At least fake or real man sya alam mo na same bag iyon na si-nend mo at hindi na-switched just by looking at the stamp.
ReplyDeleteLagrange mo ng "property of..."
Deletewag na kasi magpaka TH na sosyal. wag tularan ang tunay na mayaman at si FP yan!!!
ReplyDeleteBasta happy na ako sa fake ko na Hermes
ReplyDeleteI love love love pricey bags. But why should you buy second hand? If you don't have enough funds to buy a new one, then don't buy at all. Imho. But something na kasya sa budget mo, at least bago, sa yo tlga. And i would love to own a birkin too, but when it became mainstream thru aling d and mrs jp, nawala gana ko. Ok na ako sa lesser priced bags ko.
ReplyDeleteBirkin bags are more expensive in the second hand market or black market coz you can't simply walk inside the boutique and ask for a birkin. Kaya its not a matter of not having enough funds.
DeleteYup you're right 1:37PM. Actually when you walk into the hermes store, you really can not ask for a birkin, outright. First you have to buy small items worth $1k before the SA would deign to oblige you and admit that they have a birkin for sale, in fact. This is according to the book Bringing Home the Birkin. -oct 8 6:28 am
Deleteyep, limited number lang ang binebenta nila, so you have to wait pa before you can have one. plus it's super expensive
DeleteOh-Em-Gee...inabot tlg ng months? Only to find out that it's fake? Sakeeeeeettttt!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGG rin naman itong Hermes franchise. Dapat doon pa lang, na-detect na agad na fake. Tama, hindi nga sila trained.
The name of the store should be published to warn everyone. Baka may mabiktima pa.
ReplyDeleteI dont think this was hermes greenbelt's fault kc if d customer was really insisting, the staff would accept it. Even though they have already checked it was not authentic, the staff cant say it in front of the customer's face. The customer were charged for sending items abroad for repair. Since it was the customer's request even though the staff already knew that it was fake, they have no choice but to give in to the customer's demand. Un nga lan she had to know the real truth from the hermes suppliers which was very embarrasing kc the customer thought that she bought a real one. The lesson here is buy branded items on authorized dealers or stores pra d maloko.
ReplyDeleteyou're super right :)
DeleteHermes GB staffs should've been trained to authenticate such items... parang sinabi na rin nating our Filipino employees are not at par with those in Paris... or Hermes doesn't train their staffs to be good in the frontline... just saying
Deleteits a worldwide policy na nde cla pwede magauthenticate. kht pumunta ka kht saan na hermes. nde cla magaauthenticate. ang crafstmen from Paris lang pwde.. ung mismong gumawa ng bag..
Deleteginawa nila ung policy na un pra di rin kumalat ang fakes.. pra mawala ang secondary market..
Why can't they say it to the customer's face? What she has is a fake, kesehodang, alam nya o hindi.
DeleteIn other countries, sa LV shops, if you walk in with a fake the staff will drive you out of the store. OR if you hand it to them, pagbalik sayo sinira-sira na nila-- kasi contraband yung fake na yun e. Diba, Tina M?
In Paris, sa airport pa lang pag may dala kang fake, pwede kang makulong.
at bakit nmn tatanggapin kung fake nga, dapat nirefer nila sa 168! next time kasi hindi porke mukang sosyal at mayaman ang may dala tunay na, pwede namang fake pa din ang dala nila.
Deleteimagine paying premium price for this!! I'd be furious lol! Para ka lang nagsecosana na worth milyones hahaha.. sobrang napahiya ka pa.
ReplyDeleteunang tingin ko pa lang sa pic, i knew its a fake. if u want to buy the authentic one go to hermes paris shop, its way cheaper and sure ka na tunay. i bought mine in HK and its double the price. if u fly to paris via economy mas mura pa rin kung sa hk ka bibili.
ReplyDeleteTrue. But is this the actual bag?
DeleteAsus dami fake s hk
Deleteateh, mayaman ka kasi..kame, skwala lumpur lang, at hindi namin kayang bumalya ng bag na yan sa paris o kahit sa hangkhang..ang kaya lang ng anda namin ay yung tiklis o bayong sa baclaran..may pang pishbol pa kami..
ReplyDeleteAnd if there is Hermes Greenebelt why buy from a reseller!? And ano ba meron sa Hermes bag? Mas matibay pa nga ang Secosana eh! :)
ReplyDeleteYou cannot just buy a birkin from an Hermes boutique. It's not that simple.
DeleteThere 's a technique on how to get the hermes boutique to sell you a birkin. Read Bringing Home the Birkin and you' ll know how. -6:28AM
Deleteoh yeah? i doubt that your secosana is more matibay than the birkin. leather yung sa birkin, fake leather ang secosana. duh!
Deletei don't own one but have seen & carried one. it really is super heavy kahit walang laman & really matibay. ang ganda ng leather at ang tayo ng bag. yung friend ko has had it for years. so aside from it's a classic, it will be with you for a very long time.
DeleteAnonymousOctober 8, 2012 3:46 PM
Deleteeh di ikaw na mayaman, sori ha secosana lang kaya naming bilhim hindi katulad mo birkin na orig!
wow, AnonymousOctober 9, 2012 12:53 PM, why so rude? bakit kailangang ganyan ang reply mo sa ibang nag popost na wala namang intention mag yabang o ano pa man but just sharing their thoughts (politely). you have a lot of personal issues to settle, girl. and dami mong insecurities sa katawan.
DeleteKorek bakit kailangang mang away? Buti nga magshare pa eh hayz
DeleteSabi ko nga, if one can't really afford it, don't fake it...or in this case, dont buy 2nd hand coz one can never tell if fake ba ang mabili coz counterfeits nowadays are very hard to spot unless ur an expert sa bagay na ganito..I have cousins who buy "authentic branded" bags frm a stewardess friend of theirs but the prices are cheaper so for sure mga "super" class A ang mga yun passed as authentic..when asked how come so cheap f in fact authentic talaga, the excuse is stewardess don't pay taxes for goods bought..totoo ba yun? Just asking.. @@@
ReplyDeleteSobrang hiya siguro nung may ari ng bag! Kasi naman if you can afford wag ng bumili ng second hand at Kung Hindi mo pa kaya bumili don't settle sa second hand! Ayan tuloy fake pala ang nabili mo nakakahiya lang! Lalo na may letter pa hahaha
ReplyDeleteIf the bag was purchased from a trusted store that sell Pre owned bags, she should demand a refund! And if the said store is indeed reputable, they should return her money.
ReplyDeletekaya nga ako secosana na lang. hahaha
ReplyDeletegamit ko rin dati secosana. kaso noong nagkakalat na ng kakaibang ugali yung endorser ng bag, i changed brand. natasha na lang, keri lang. basta hindi ko pina patronize ang ine-endorse ng kahit sinong hindi karespe-respeto.
Deletesayo ba yan fp hahaha
ReplyDeletemahal pala nyan gosh presyong koche na
ReplyDeleteHindi nag-match yung narrative ng story with how Hermes International wrote its reply. Why did i say so?
ReplyDeleteFP Story:
1) Someone bought a 2nd hand bag she thought was original.
2) She sent it to Hermes Greenbelt who in turn would send it to
Hermes Paris for maintenance.
3) Hermes Philippines aApparently did not notice the bag was fake
and later found out when Hermes Int replied.
Content of Letter:
1) Read carefully. The letter is a RESPONSE LETTER to an inquiry on the authenticity of the bag. In other words, ipinadala yung bag hindi for maintenance kung hindi to verify its authenticity, kung totoo ba o fake. So may hinala na yung Hermes Philippines from the start sa authenticity ng bag, kaya nga sa last part noon response letter ng Hermes Int may nakasulat na, "I hereby confirm...", meaning may nagtanong o nag raise na ng doubt previously.
eh anong gusto mong palabasin, mali mali magkwento si FP? ikaw na matalino.. naintindihan mo lahat eh!
Deleteikaw naman AnonymousOctober 9, 2012 12:55 PM, ibig lang sabihin nagiisip si AnonymousOctober 8, 2012 7:18 PM. hindi yung comment ng comment ng bitchy statements wala namang kabuluhan. minsan kailangan mo ring makabasa ng may kabuluhan dito. hindi yung mga comments ng tulad ng sayo.
DeleteKorek ka jan, Octber 9, 2012 3:01 PM. This post is meant to educate us all. Not a license to just bash anyone through comments na wala namang katuturan. Hay..
DeleteIn-over analyze mo lang kse yung letter.. took it word for word.. nagfefeeling matalino.. mali naman.. pinadala yung bag.. pinalinis.. nag refuse ang hermes int.. kse nga fake.. kaya nagpadala ng letter about it.. ganun ka simple.. di na kelangan ianalyze yung letter ng OA.. ano yun?! just to show na mas matalino ka kunwari kay FP and the rest of the readers kse ikaw lang naka gets.. hay nako.. may mga tao talagang ganyan.. masabi lang.. =P
Deleteit is expensive and will always remain that way.
ReplyDeletedid you know that they burn their unsold items? the house of channel and LV do that monthly to maintain the status of their brand. they will never sell it as 2nd hand or sell it as SALE... never.
i have worked for ms. miuccia before...
Miuccia is House of Prada and Miu Miu not LV or Chanel.Gotcha!
DeleteAng dami na talagang naloloko pag dating sa mga collection bag. Kailangan talaga nag iingant lalo na pag dating sa mamahaling bagay. Kailangan talaga mag research ka mona at alamin mo kong ano ang tunay at fake lalo na kong ganyan kamahal ang bibilhin mong gamit.
ReplyDeleteOFF TOPIC: ang hindi ko maintindihan bakit napaka mahal ng brand ng bag na to eh hindi naman uber kagandahan ang itsura. Sobrang simple lang.
ReplyDeleteika nga beuty is in the eye of the beholder - just because it doesn't appeal to you, it doesn't mean na hindi na siya maganda sa paningin ng ibang tao.
Deleteaside from the brand, it's the quality of hermes bags that make them valuable.
as ive said, they burn unsold items and will never put it on sale. that makes the owners of those expensive stuff that they have some sort of rare item. which in turn makes it expensive as time goes by.
DeleteYikes! Buti nalang wala ako pambili ng Hermes bag!
ReplyDeleteAnd it's sad that they kill animals for this..
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