The PFF has gone sensitive re the matter, forgetting that when Ms. Ramos raised a complaint re the boys, they did not take the same course of action (action agad). Opinion lang din ni Arnold Clavio 'yun, yes, mali siya kasi as an anchor na taga-relay ng balita, naging sensitive siya dapat. Pero with Ms. Ramos, official siya, sana nabigyan din ng urgency yung pag-tackle sa pino-point out niya na she felt harassed sa actions ng players.
korek ka! ngaun ung sympathy ng tao nasa Azkals because of a simple opinion although mali nga kc anchor sya, pero we never heard anything sa case na sinampa ni Ms. Ramos
Hindi ba formal complaint lang din naman ito tulad ng ginawa ni Ms. Ramos? Hindi ba nakaschedule na ang hearing for the complaint of Ms. Ramos sa pagbalik ng mga players?
i agree! i think part yan ng promotion ng football sa pinas kaya kumuha sila ng mga guwapo. alam naman nilang weakness yan ng mga pinoy, yung mga may accent, kaya mas madaling makilala ang football.
tsaka di naman talaga sila ugaling Pinoy dahil hindi sila lumaki dito. bakit kasi hindi magsuporta ng mga local talents at mag-invest sa training para naman hindi mga British accent ang mga players natin. puro tayo import ng import. gusto biglang yaman. kaya wala tayong asenso.
Miss Ramos' case is already in court, what else should the PFF do? Mr. Clavio of all people should know that the Azkals, or some members of the team, are innocent until proven guilty. It was so unprofessional...
Naglabas na po ng statement ang dalawang akusado na players at meron nang naghihintay na imbestigasyon sa kanilang pagbalik sa bansa. Unless gusto ng mga tao na by email or phone call lang ang imbestigasyon.
Correct! Ang bilis nila magcomplain if they are being criticized pero they can't even check their own backyard... Nakaka-disappoint that these officials keep pampering and protecting this team...
kaya sila hindi agad pumalag is because they have a tournament to play and complete in. they wanted to focus first and trying to win. for who? for the country's pride and glory. pagbalik, either panalo or talunan, tsaka nila harapin ung issue nila.
i think mabilis ang action ng PFF dahil #1. Football is anti racism. if iche-check natin, racism is a big issue when it comes to the football community. May mga summit pa nga na ginagawa for that. #2. The person involved (mr. clavio) is just within the boundaries of the country, unlike with Ms. Cristy's case na yung accused players are in Nepal.
irresponsible journalism? sino mas irresponsable? si Clavio o yung Azkals? Think again bi***!!!! anu ka hilo? si Clavio yung irresponsible? siguro na sampulan ka din ng Azkals kaya ang ganda ng defense mo...
To 6:32 am. Pwede ba. As much as i agree with most of what arnold clavio said, it is STILL irresponsible journalism. As a media figure (and im not talking about showbiz actors) you should maintain a ground of neutrality. Yeah its cool, its his opinion about the azkals, wala tayong magagawa dun. Its what he feels eh. Pero to say it on national tv and on a morning news program?
At pwede, walang sisihan kung sino ang may mali o hindi? Eh di may mali azkals. Eh di mali rin si clavio. Pending naman ang case. Ngayon, bakit ka sobrang defensive? PWEDE BA.
To 06:32 Both are to be reprimanded because both are major offenses (sexual harassment and racism/irresponsible journalism). So wag ka magalit. Both are pending investigation and rightly so.
Yung sa Azkals po, may punishment na ba sa ginawa nila? Kasi, kahit dalawa lang ang nambastos ng deretsahan, bakit walang sumaway sa kanila doon? Nagtawanan pa. Napanood ba nila ung "The Accused"?
Kita mo ilang beses na silang narereklamo about sa sexual harassment lagi na lang pinapalampas ng mga tao tapos ngayon may naglakas ng loob na mag salita todo complain sila. In the first place hindi naman mag sasalita si arnold ng ganyan kung hindi sila nang bastos. Sa totoo lang tama naman lahat ng sinabi ni arnold. Masyadong overrated ang askals wala naman inuuwing medal unlike other filipino teams na nag uumapaw ang medal pero hindi napapansin ng govt.
Hi. Pakihanap at paki-intindi na rin kung anong definition ng 'sexual harassment.' At sino ba si Arnold para maging arbiter ng mga pangyayari at sabihing hindi sila Filipino? Kung ganyan mga pronouncements niya sa SHowbiz Central siya sumali at wag sa news and current affairs.
Isang malaking check! I have never understood & probably never will understand the hype over these guys. Marami pong mas magagaling na atletang Pinoy na hindi pinapansin kasi walang British accent? Hindi Tisoy? And please, Ms. Girlfriend of Mr. Younghusband, dont even start with racism, or discrimination thingy with me. Utang na loob, ilang sexual harrassment complaints pa bago maumay ang Pinoy?
No surprise. tabloid style naman ang "journalism" ng channel 7. pati si jessica soho na formerly hard-hitting war reporter, pinapagreport na ngayon tungkol sa mga jejemon, iba't ibang halo halo, etc. sinayang nila talent ng good journalists.
sus! ngaun sensitive sila kasi tinira sila ng media?! bakit? naging sensitive ba sila nung binastos nila si cristy ramos?! ang galing din nila magdivert ng issue nila sa iba.. haynaku
Whether tabloid style or formal style... the fact is that news has an opinion portion... it is his own opinion.... the bottom line is that Ramos was improperly treated as a woman... and the Azkals are improperly treated as gods... tinitingnan niyo yung azkal parang deity when they are people that need to step down and learn to say sorry and accept their mistakes...
excuse lang ano, medyo OT lang ito... pero regarding sa sinasabi mong jejemon at halo-halo reports ni jessica soho.. paalala ko lang, ano, magazine show po sila... so kung anong patok, yun ang gagawan ng istorya. gaya mo ngayon, at gayan ko na rin, kung anong patok na k'wento, dun ka magkukomento.
anong tabloid dun? journalists can be both objective (news) and subjective (editorial) specially if they need to shape public opinions thru their value judgment... both a right and an obligation.
Ke mahal ng mga ticket eh wala pa naman silang medalya. Please, hindi na yata nagiging maganda ang nangyayari sa ating society ngayon. Kapag hindi ka kumakain ng Magnum, di ka raw "cool". Pag di mo type football, baduy ka. Magkaroon naman tayo ng pagmamahal sa sariling atin.
"Are they less Filipino than those who grew up entirely in the Philippines?" - Are they Filipino citizen or holding a dual citizenship? You can't run for government office if you have dual citizenship because there is a doubt on a person's allegiance. So kung equal lang ang laki satin sa laki outside the country e bakit nga pag mag run for government office kailangan maging full pledge Filipino citizen. I watched their game against India and it was obvious that they will win but they do not have a chance against North Korea.
Clavio was just stating his opinion, PFF is being so sensitive. Just man up and apologize, period. I personally share Clavio's statements. It seems that the Azkals are getting away with everything they do. This has nothing to do w/ their race/nationality. It has EVERYTHING do with professionalism and respect. OA ka.
It has something to do with nationality kasi sinabi ni arnold na di sila lumaki sa pinas. Moreover, Philippine national team therefore kailangan pinoy so again the nationality. Lastly, eveyone is saying na their attitude is like that because they do not share the same values or traditions ng mga pinoy. Saka, it does not have anything to do with professionalism but respect i'll agree with you.
"It has EVERYTHING to do with professionalism and respect"
Same goes with Clavio, especially because he's a journalist. Don't get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree that the Azkals that were involved should indeed be sanctioned once the allegations are proven.
Sa tingin ko lang is that medyo na-carry away dahil sa galit si Clavio kaya niya nasabi yung "hindi tunay na pinoy". Baka kung hindi niya sinabi yon, hindi naman magagalit ang PFF.
Call it tabloid journalism, whatever... it's called his opinion. Maybe if the Azkals don't want to hear anything negative about them they should stop doing negative crap.Ans PFF and fans, please stop babying them. Yun lang pow.
"This has nothing to do with their race/nationality" Good line but u used it for a wrong point. Talagang the sexual harassment case has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR NATIONALITY. Kaya Mr. Clavio should be sanctioned with racism as well kc he used their race as a reason on why the accused are capable of the supposed crime they committed. IF FOUND GUILTY, SANCTION BOTH OF THEM (some Azkals and Clavio)!
Hindi yung opinion niya in general ang problema, ang problema ay yung racial prejudice. Hindi kasi tayo sanay sa mga ganitong problema, pero sa ibang bansa labag ito sa batas.
Kung puti na broadcaster ang nagsabi sa States o sa UK na ang mga half-white ay hindi naman talaga Americano o Brit, ang laking gulo nun. White supremacist labas niya nun at pwede siyang kasuhan.
Yung idea ng racial purity ang ideologia na nagtayo sa Nazi party, kaya nakakagulat yung mga ibang commenter dyan na laman ng bibig ay "pure Filipino". Akala ata nila na patriotic sila pero actually racist sila.
Hindi lang naman kasi brown/kayumanggi ang pwedeng maging Pinoy. Paano na ang mga lahing Chinese, Spanish, at iba pang dayuhan? Ni si Rizal at si Bonifacio hindi purong kayumanggi.
anubey! ALam naman nating lahat na totoo ang mga sinabi ni arn arn. It's just that mali lang dahil he's a journalist/reporter. He should've been more sensitive with his comments. But nonetheless, it's just the same sentiment that most of us think about the azkals. Anyare na pala ung parusa sa mga bastos na azkals? Wala parin? I won't be surprised. :)
tama ka! pero ung set up kasi ng show is open for commentaries, overboard yes, but so are the tulfo brothers, ted failon sometimes, and kabayan... y don't they make a fuss out of it? because it isnt askalz. groupie kasi ung mga nagooverreact sa twitter. pareact react pa ang season's favorite na si tambok, wait lang sya pag mismong bidyo na ng jowa nya ang masaksihan nya. naku diba? si bula na maxadong maka social climb kahit saang barkadahan go na go. todo tawag ng bobo sa dating biktima (kuno) pero sya naman, sunud sunuran sa mga mayayaman nya tropapips. If i know, inaakit nya ung mga azkals sa peke nyang ilong.
Clavio said a true but nonetheless irrelevant point. Anyone, irregardless of sex and race, can be a victim of or commit harassment. Dpat masanction ung accused Azkals and also Clavio if found guilty.
Ang point lang ni arn arn, wag silang magpakayabang dahil hindi naman sila lahat purong pilipino to start with. Ang gulo gulo na nga sa Pilipinas dadagdag pa ang mga manyak na azkals na yan!
Korek!!! cguro kaya pangalan nila Azkals... kasi asong kalye yung mga galaw ng mga football players na yan... di ba yung mga asong kalye sa gitna ng kalye nag bebreeding???????? cguro the same sila....
Korek na my check! Come to think of it laging kasali ang mga azkal players sa mga ganito issue... Parang lahat ba ito eh accusation lng or tlagang malalakas ang loob nila na gawin ang lahat dhil meron silang SINANSANDALAN NA MATATAG... Hmmm.
tumpak na tumpak!! yayabang naman kasi talaga! buti nga me matapang na katulad ni arn arn nag kayang magsalita nga ganoon!! lahat ng accusations sa kanila wala daw katotoohanan!! parati na lang!! yayabang!!!
People are so darn sensitive. Why lodge a comment against an opinion? In a sense, tama naman si Arnold. Maybe we should start training pure Filipinos sa sports na yan. Ewan ko lang ha, pero when i see these Azkals, wala ako makitang trace of anything Filipino sa kanila. Ang pagiging Pilipino, nasa puso, nasa gawa. Sa ginawa ng mga Azkals kay Ms. Ramos, hindi gawain ng tunay na Pinoy. Ang tunay na Pinoy, may respeto sa babae, hindi nambabastos. Nasa labas ka man ng dug out o nasa loob.
Really? So, non-existent sa pure Pinoy ang sexual harassment. Wala pa talagang pure Pinoy na naka-commit ng sexual harassment? That's a joke right? What fantasy Philippines are you living in? Wake up. The race here in any sexual harassment issue is irrelevant!
Under Article 353 of the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines, libel is defined as a public and malicious imputation of a crime, or of a vice or defect, real or imaginary, or any act, omission, condition, status or circumstance tending to discredit or cause the dishonor or contempt of a natural or juridical person, or to blacken the memory of one who is dead. Thus, the elements of libel are: (a) imputation of a discreditable act or condition to another; (b) publication of the imputation; (c) identity of the person defamed; and, (d) existence of malice. [Daez v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 47971, 31 October 1990, 191 SCRA 61, 67]
I think kung ganyan ang standards ng LIBEL sa Pilipinas, well, malabo na manalo ang azkals. Kasi yung pagkasabi ni Arnold hindi sya malicious.. Parang sort of "Lecture" hindi sya yung tipong mala Lolit Solis. getching?
I agree. In fairness, mas may pinagaralan FP readers kesa sa mga nagccomment sa yahoo ph. Ka highblood mga comment dun. I agree with Arn arnm yun lang mali kc journalist xa, dapat wala kinikilingan ang tema. Pero hanga ako at kampi xa sa pilipino. Tayo nga nahihiya pag may kababayan na ginagawang kabalbalan sa ibang bansa e, tapos mabatikos lang ang Azkals racist kagad? Hindi ba pwedeng nabuset muna?
The comments in this post just shows how ignorant and insensitive people are about the issue of racism. And the fact that many still do not realize that even after seeing the incriminating clip proves my point.
The case against the Philippine Azkals members are still in the process of being investigated. None of the allegations have been proven yet. However, Arnold Clavio's raging racism is broadcast on national television for all to see and is irrefutable. I believe the PFF has every right to complain and I salute them for doing so.
To the comments: Please disprove the claim that Arnold Clavio's statements are racist: "Hindi naman kayo Pilipino. Nagpapanggap lang kayong kayumanggi. Hindi kayo dito lumaki". If you can present your case in an intelligent manner then maybe I'll listen. But so far, all the comments I've seen defending Clavio's actions have been pointless and obviously misdirected. Mabuti ng dada ng dada, basta may sense, di tulad nyong defend ng defend wala namang alam.
I agree with 07:33AM. And to 04:39pm and 07:00pm, how judgmental of your to conclude na pag sinabing dapat ding i-sanction si Clavio, pro-Azkal na. Hello!! Lawakan ang pag-iisip. Merong anti-Azkal, merong Anti-Clavio. At meron din anti-sexual-harassment-and-racism. Pareho kasing offense un. Dpat tlaga sila i-sanction pareho IF FOUND GUILTY.
wala pang napaptunayan azkals. dahil dito dapat di n rin sila suportahan ng media. as for clavio, i adore him para s tapang... although mali ung pamamaraan nya... as for azkals, prove yourselves muna... kung hindi dahil s suporta ng bawat FILIPINO s inyo.. wala kayo.. hindi kayo sisikat.
ang yayabang ng mga asal azkal na ito ang mag manyak at mambatos pwede ang mag bigay ng opinion at alam ng lahat na kung ikaw ang nasa katayuan ni MS. Ramos o kaibigan,kamag anak o nasa matitinong pag iisip kanino ka papabor syempre sa babaeng nabastos,kahit man lang sa opinion eh matira o makanti man lang ang mga mukhang bangus na azkals na yan..abah! may lakas ng loob pa silang mag reklamo,sagutin muna nila ang mga nagrereklamo sa kanila,kung may nasabi man ang mga taga UH humingi na sya ng paumanhin pero agree ako na pinanindigan nya ung sinabi nya against azkals!
Ang bilis nilang mag-react about Arn-arn. Kulang na lang i-demand nila na ipatanggal sa 7. Pa-demand demand pa ng apology. Samantalang pagdating sa kaso ni Cristy Ramos, wala man lang nag-apologize. Ay meron daw pala. "Sorry kay Cristy Ramos, pero ganoon talaga ugali ng mga lalaki sa mga locker room nila eh." Sus!
Hay naku bakit kasi halos dini-diyos yang mga Azkals na yan. Pag may nagreklamo na babae, automatically iniisip na kesyo sinisiraan daw sila, kesyo pinu-put down ang Philippine football, kesyo ginagamit lang daw ang Azkals para sumikat. Sus! Mga perpekto ba yang mga yan na hindi capable na mambastos ng tao, lalo pa sa babae? Sus! Sus!
I'm not defending Clavio; I'm not even a fan. It's obvious naman he went overboard in his opinion. Pero mas malala naman ang mga anchors ng Channel 2 sa pagiging overboard no? Nagkataon lang na may kontrata ang mga Azkals sa channel 2. Kung wala, of course sila ang mauuna sa pagtuligsa sa mga yan!
Hay naku bakit kasi halos dini-diyos yang mga Azkals na yan. Pag may nagreklamo na babae, automatically iniisip na kesyo sinisiraan daw sila, kesyo pinu-put down ang Philippine football, kesyo ginagamit lang daw ang Azkals para sumikat. Sus! Mga perpekto ba yang mga yan na hindi capable na mambastos ng tao, lalo pa sa babae? Sus! Sus!
I highly agree. Wala naman sa mga yan ang gustong maging Filipino talaga. They just want to bask in the perks of pretending to be one dahil sa atensyon na binibigay sa kanila. Layas!
oh puh-leez! yung mga kumakampi lang naman sa mga azkals na yan e mga madaling mauto ng mga magaganda katawan at mukhang foreign-germs. Lakas nyo makabanat ng mga kaso e sa opinion naman ng tao yun e. at totoo naman e! dito ba sila lumaki? naranasan na ba nila mamuhay as a real filipino? ni hindi nga siguro marunong mag commute mga yan. so please shut up. isa pa tong si Angel Locsin. papansin ka te? masyadong affected? d naman nabanggit yang jowa mo. ahhh.... kasi waley ka na naman exposure no? hay naku. PFF, azkals and angel; just shut your pieholes ok?
personally, i agree with arnold clavio. There must be truly something with this society of ours that we choose to let foreigners play for our home team. Admit it, majority of the Azkal players barely even speak tagalog. I believe that we can develop players on our own without dependence on imports or whatever, they are referred to. The imp in me might even go so far as to say that..."these players probably never will be able to join the leagues of the countries where they are originally from; which is they are all suddenly Filipinos by blood".. just to be able to form a team..... With regards to the complaint of Ms. Ramos, well, just apologizing doesn't even begin to cut it. These Azkals are already full of themselves that they think their good looks can justify whatever actions they do, even to the point of rudeness. It's a good thing that Ms. Ramos lodged her complaint.
i smell network war! this issue will die down because of the mentality that winning in the tournament is best for the country. i am aghast at some comments in other social networking sites that trivialized the complaint of ms. ramos.
San na nga ba si freedom of speech? Kahit n negative ung sinabi or ang dating ng pgkasabi ni igan,its still the other half of the story. Most ppol will agree with igan's statements. Its just that, pff heard and watched it on tv. Pano kapag ordinaryong tao ang mgsasabi non, maghahain ba ng reklamo ang PFF? Siguro pag nsa ibang bansa ung nanyari, wat they did is fine. But then agen, nsa pilinas sila and ppol here are conservative and mindful of others.
FP, baka one day ikaw at ang mga commenters dto mkakatangap din ng letter from PFF. Peace out! :)
Yun nga ang point -- kung ordinaryong tao lang ang nagsabi, walang problema at walang pakialam ang PFF. Actually, kahit kung si Arnold ang nagsabi pero sinabi niya off camera, walang issue. Yun ang freedom of speech.
Pero once sinabi niya on air sa isang network show yung kanyang racist opinion, dun nagkaroon ng problema. Halot lahat nung panlalait niya, pwede pa, pero nung sinabi niya na nagpapanggap lamang na kayumanggi yung mga half-Fil na players, dun siya nadenggoy. Ang kayumanggi ay race, ang pagiging Filipino ay nationality. Parang sinabi niya na rin na ang pwede lang maging Filipino ay purong kayumanggi.
Kung sinabi niya yon sa tv sa ibang bansa, mas lagot siya. Seryosong issue ang racial prejudice sa first world. Imagine mo kung may puting broadcaster sa States na nagsabi na mga puti lang ang totoong Amerikano, ngayon pa sa administration ni Obama? Sisante agad siya. Yung isang taga ESPN nga nasisante dahil lang ginawa niyang biro yung Asian origin ni Jeremy Lin.
Sa susunod, mag-research ka naman ng konti bago ka dumadakdak.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but when you are a public personality, you have to be very careful with what you are saying...Clavio might just be voicing out his sentiments but he was being racist and discriminatory . He has apologized though but the damage has been done. Unfortunately, we are so use to the trial by publicity being done in our country that we don't even wait for the concerned officers to do their job...
Sa aking palagay ay wala namang sinabing 'hindi tama' si Mr. Clavio. kaya siguro nasasaktan yung iba, kasi lahat ng sinabi niya eh totoo. At offended sila na madinig ang totoo.
Meron akong kaibigan na member ng fansclub nila (di ko na i-me-mention kung anong fan club kasi na feature na sila sa isang docu)
Naroon daw sila kesyo para may mag cheer at ma-inspire na mag-uwi ng medalya ang mga ito. Hooo! Mga plastik! Hindi naman sila naroon pala para sa Pilipino. naroon sila para may pag pantasyahan sila.
Kung after kayo sa karagalan ng Pilipino, cheer niyo rin yung Dragon Boat Team o di kaya ibang atleta na tunay na nag-uuwi ng karangalan sa Pilipinas.
Hindi naman guwapo si Guirado sa tunay lang, mukha siyang taong Java sa sinaunang panahon. Feeling guwapo lang iyang mga iyan.
Okay ang punto kasi rito, dapat matuto silang rumespeto. wala bang nag-orient sa kanila na ang mga babae rito eh iginagalang?
What i understand from "hindi Pilipino" at "hindi kalahi" e hindi sila pareho ng kinalakhang tradisyon, pananaw, ugali o paniniwala. Una na dyan ang pagrespeto sa kababaihan. Sa tingin ko, guilty naman talaga yung 2 player sa sexual harassment at akala nila e makakalusot sila.Siguro nga mali yung mga salitang ginamit niya pero sampal talga yun sa kanila para magising sila. Ano kaya kung sila din ang pag-usapan ng "siguro 2 inches lang yan", ?matutuwa ba kayo? hay!
Your opinion of "respeto sa kababaihan" as a Filipino value is admirably high but overly idealistic. It's a Filipino value alright but it doesn't follow na pag pure Pinoy ka marunong ka rumespeto sa kababaihan which is ur point above and syang mali kay Clavio. Just ask how many cases of sexual harassment/rape are committed by PURE PINOYs, and you'd be surprise of the figure. Wag na ka lumayo, basahin mo na lang ung news about sa batang babae na nirape sa Laguna yata un, or the sampaguita girl rape case. PURE PINOY gumawa nun. Di nila nirespeto ang kababihan. Don't get me wrong. Im a proud pinoy and I too would like to believe that we respect girls but I dont claim that just because I Pinoy doesnt mean I respect girls MORE compared to other races. That is what's wrong with the point of Clavio. My 2 cents.
Have Ms. Ramos file a complaint in court, wag na sa PFF at wala siyang mapapala dun. masyado silang sensitive sa opinyon ni arnold pero di nila maisip ang babaeng nabastos. wala ba silang mga nanay o kapatid na babae?
You're so sure they're guilty kahit kulang pa ang information mo, bakit pa kailangan ng court? Ang galing galing mong humusga naunahan mo pa yung AFC at PFF, kaya ikaw na lang ang humarap na Judge sa kanila! At pagkatapos mong ideklera silang threat to society, ipabitin mo sila sa isang poste ng Rizal Stadium kung saan mapapanood mo sila habang nagpipicnic sa field. O ayan, happing happy na kayong lahat.
Mali naman kasi si Mr. Clavio. News anchor sya. Akala ko ba walang kinikilingan? Haha sana sinarili nya na lang ung opinion nya, dalawa lang naman ung may case. Bakit ni-lahat nya? Grabe pala bunganga ni arn arn. Hindi kaya bitter sya? And morning show un, baka may mga bata na nanunuod.
dapat lang kay arnold clavio racism naman talaga ung ginawa nya kahit sang anggulo nyo tingnan eh
kapag may Pinoy sa American Idol sasabihin nyong "Pinoy yan" at kapag may Fil-Am na gusto maglaro sa NT ng basketball sasabihin nyo Pinoy yan... pero kapag football, hindi Pinoy? Anong kabobohan yun? :)
Exactly! Pag advantage sa lahi natin we claim them as Pinoy kahit di kayumanggi or lumaki dito as Clavio said or kahit di marunong magsalita ng Tagalog or kahit layo ng Pinoy blood nila basta Pinoy sila dahil pride un. Pero pag masamang issue, kahit Pinoy nationality talaga pinagpipilitan natin na hindi! Hypocrites, bigots and social climbers! Shameful really.
may point c Arn-arn and I'm sure most people share the same sentiments,only the flaw is with how he executed it. D naman lahat but most of the foreign memebers of the group have that sense of entitlement and that rockstar disposition because most of us let them be and tolerate it! sampolan sana ni Ms. Ramos to sa pagbalik nila.
This case is PFF on behalf of the national team vs Arnold Clavio. Iba po yung case ni Ms. Ramos vs 2 members of the national team. Clarong clarong na iba ang mga accuser and accused di ba? Pinagpipilitan lang ni Arnold na ipaghalo yung dalawang issue dahil naghahanap siya ng kakampi para ma-deflect na nagsabi siya ng racist na bagay na nakakainsulto sa mga Filipinong hindi purong kayumanggi.
Agree! They just remembered na pinoy sila when they did not make it to their respective national football teams.thus remembering that they have filipino ancestry of some degree and exploiting the philippine team.
Hahaha! They claim na pag pure pinoy marunong rumespeto sa kababaihan and foreigners dont. Really? As if wla pang Pure Pinoy na naka-commit ng sexua harassment and rape.
Kaya may page sa Facebook na 2011 Boycott GMA7 News, na may 30k+ na likers, kasi naman minsan Biased ung reporting nila! At etong mga Azkals na toh Yumabang na talaga, hello mag uwi muna kayo ng Tropeyo bago kayo magyabang,sample na lang na di porke boyfriend ka ni Angel Locsin feeling m ang taas taas m na! At yung ibang players sana nman matuto kayo ng tinatawag na respeto at paggalang sa babae! Pano pag ginawa yung issue na nagyari sa nanay, kapatid, pinsan o lola m?!! "Do unto others what you want others do unto you!"
He voiced out what everyone else is thinking. Or most of us anyways. I too feel that the azkals should focus more on improving their game and stop being such airheads. And someone please tell Lobo to shut up. Because i don't like her hahaha!
Hindi ko rin tinuturing na kapwa pinoy ang ibang half-half na azkals. Sabik sa publicity, bastos, laging talo, panalo lang sa pipichuging football teams! Di yan pinoy!
Kung isa-summarize natin ang mga qualified sa description mong bastos, sabik sa publicity, laging talo, wala ng matitirang pinoy dahil lahat ng tao naging ganyan na at one point or another. All the while I thought ur being proud as Pinoy pero sa sinabi mo u just erased the whole PINOY race dahil wla ng qualified. Hahaha. Nice try!
OA naman ang reaction ng PFF. They are trying to deflect the issue. At most, PFF only needed to send out a simple statement of disappointment about Arnold Clavio's opinions. Did PFF spend as much time crafting and creating a statement that is equally as long addressing Ms. Ramos' complaints?
Finally, which show was Arnold expressing his opinions? Was it in a newscast or in a "news" show? If it's in a news show and not a newscast, Arnold can give his opinion. Parang si Anderson Cooper. Kapag nagbabalita siya, diretsong balita lang. Pero pag sa show niya na "Anderson Cooper 360" sa CNN pa rin, puro opinions niya iyon. That's just the norm now.
Una, wala pa naman resolusyon yung case ni Cristy. Siguradong sigurado na ba kayo ni Arnold na guilty yung mga players? Nandun rin ba kayo sa loob ng locker room? Ang alam ko naniniwala tayo na innocent hanggang proven guilty ang mga acusado dito.
Pangalawa, porke't galit si Arnold, hindi yon sapat na rason para magpahayag siya ng ignorante at RACIST na opinion tungkol sa mga Filipinong hindi kayumanggi. Kahit opinionated si Anderson Cooper, NEVER siya naging racist. Pakibasa po ang Journalism Code of Ethics, at paki search na rin po ang kaibahan ng Race sa Nationality. Madali para sa isang taong katulad ni Arnold na siraan ang mga Azkals, pero sabihin kaya niya sa mukha ng mga Sy, Gokongwei, Araneta, Ayala, atbp na hindi sila Pinoy dahil hindi sila kayumanggi? Sabihin niya na rin sa mga bayaning OFW na nakatira sa ibang bansa na kung may halong ibang race yung mga anak nila, hindi na sila Pinoy.
Pangatlo, hindi pa po pwedeng mag-comment ang PFF sa complaint ni Cristy dahil on-going pa ang imbestigasyon. Hindi ba obvious yon? I'm sure na pag-natapos na ang inquiry, mahabang mahaba rin ang statement naibibigay ng PFF.
Kailangan ipaghiwalay ang issue nung case ni Cristy at ang issue ng pagka-prejudiced ni Arnold. Kahit ba sabihin nyo na yung una yung rason para dun sa pangalawa, hindi talaga yon sapat na justification, lalo na sa larangan ng public broadcast. Parang sinabi nyo na rin na ok lang na sinagasaan mo yung isang tao dahil galit ka na sinabunutan niya yung kapit-bahay mo.
May punto sana si Clavio kung ang tinatalakay nya nung time na yun ay hindi ang harassment issue. Fact nmn tlg na not pure most of the Azkals but to use it as a proof of their capacity to commit sexual harassment is racist, a low blow and uncalled for. As if its a given na kapag pure pinoy ka di ka na pwede na makaka-commit ng sexual harassment. That's just plain b***s**t. Irrelevant nmn tlg ung race sa harassment case na un. And by raising it up is racism on part of Clavio.
I SUPPORT ARNOLD CLAVIO ON THIS. IT MAY THE WRONG VENUE TO SAY HIS OPINIONS, BUT WHAT HE SAID WAS EXACTLY 100 TRUE. IF, THEY ARE FILIPINO IN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS, THEY WOULD HAVE TREATED MS. RAMOS WITH UTMOST RESPECT BECAUSE WE FILIPINOS ARE THE MOST RESPECTFUL PEOPLE. peace fp.love you taroush69
tama, may grain of truth ang mga sinabi ni Clavio. but he's not the RIGHT PERSON to say those things because he's a journalist. journalists should be free from subjectivity. he should know that. antagal na nya sa media. lalo na't hindi pa naman talaga napapatunayan na may harassment ngang naganap. wala pang verdict na guilty ang mga nasangkot. he should have stick to the issue at hand which is allegedly, "sexual harassment" and refrained from giving unnecessary side comments like: mayayabang etc...ang paraan ng pagkakasabi pa eh parang usapan lang ng mga tambay sa kanto. very unbecoming of a journalist. nagpadala sya sa inis nya sa nangyari. it's like ginatungan nya pa ang accusations against some Azkals members, parang pinatotohanan nya by way of saying things discriminatory against those involved further fueling the rage of the people. anong pinagkaiba nyan sa trial by publicity? hinusgahan mo na eh wala naman pa atang kasong sinampa but a formal complaint for disciplinary action purposes lang. but he already apologized for what he said so i guess that ends it.
WOW, what a claim! Filipinos as the most respectful people. Hate to burst your fantasy bubble pero tingnan mo na lang sa thread na to. Ilan ang messages na may value of respect. The mere fact na binastos ni Clavio ang foreign bloods or half breeds is another one. Those are contradictions to that claim. Pag diniscuss pa natin ang mga pure Pinoy na nakacommit ng sexual harassment and rape, ewan ko na lang baka himatayin ka. It nice that we uphold our Pinoy values and we're proud of it but to downgrade other race to raise ourselves is one way to DISRESPECT. Enough said!
Hindi porke tags ibang Bansa bastos na! Maraming pinoy na bastos. Sana magiingat tayo sa Sasabihin natin at wag tayo mag judge kaagad ng Tao. Innocent until proven guilty nga naman di BA :)
Hindi ako nag-ja-judge sa kabastusan ng Pinoy at mga banyaga. lahat naman tayo may angking kabastusan. Dito sa issue na ito, labas ang kulay at lahi, binastos ng dalawang miyembro ng Azkals si Cristy Ramos. Kung babae ka at sinabihan at pinakitaan ka ng ganun, hindi ka ba mababastus? Kung lalake at may anak kang babae o kapatid na babae na nasa parehong sitwasyon, hindi ka ba ma-o-offend?
I am not judging them based on their color, culture or upbringing. I am offended by what they did and how they continue to believe that they did nothing wrong.
Exactly, di nga yun race and nationality ang issue eh; so bakit yun ang tinitira ni Mr. Clavio? He should've stick to the issue and did go beyond it by attacking them on what color of their skins are.
Hindi po yung sexual harassment ang issue dito. Ang issue ay yung pagkasabi ni Arnold Clavio ng mga racist remarks laban sa mga Filipinong hindi purong kayumanggi. Sa pagsabi niya na hindi naman talaga Filipino ang mga Azkals na may isa lang na magulang na Filipino, parang binale wala niya ang importansya ng mga magulang nilang Pinoy, at ininsulto na rin niya ang lahat ng mga lahing Fil-Chinese, Fil-Spanish, Fil-American, atbp. na kababayan natin.
Dahil Half-Pinoy bastos kaagad. Eh manood lang ako nang balita sa TV maraming na-re rape dyan sa Metro Manila, hindi naman half-Pinoy mga yun ah. Purong pangung Pinoy talaga. Mag ingat po sa sinasabi natin. Huwag tayo mag generalize.
At isa pa, sinu sa atin makapagsasabi na purong Pinoy sya, aber? Sa Philippine history alam natin na mga native tribes lang makakapag-claim niyan. Halos lahat sa atin may halo nang dugo nang Chinese, American, Japanes, Spanish at kung anu-ano pa. AY, Ibig sabihin lahat pala na Filipino bastos...Yan ang conclusion kung ganyan ang takbo nang argumento natin.
Hindi ako fan nang football kasi for me, yan ang pinaka boring na game. Di rin ako fan ni Arnold. Ang akin lang, i-judge natin ang pagkakamali nang tao and not his/her background.
"HINDI KA KULTURA, HINDI TOTOONG PILIPINO NAG PAPANGGAP NA KAYUMANGGI"pero pag nag uwe na ng parangal nag cclaim tayo na pinoy sila at yan ang husay ng mga pilipino...bakit ganon pag may nagawang panget hndi na ka kultura pero pag may nauwe ng medalya sa bansa kung akuin natin sila wagas lang..... pag ba hindi lumaki sa pinas kahit may dugong pinoy bastos na???? eh bakit yung mga purong dugong pinoy dito na lumaki at tumanda bastos din....... i adore arn arn para sa pag tatanggol nya sa sexual harrasment pero yung term na ginamit nya about sa ugali ng mga half pinoy eh parang may mali ata dun, sana naicip nya muna na azkals lang ba ang fil-am sa mundo????????
Tama! May I just ask sa GMA 7 ba walang mga half pinoy na Artist? The last time I checked sa kanila mga mraming brapanese artists, and those are not even half breed Pinoys. Stop being hypocrites! Para naman napaka perfect ng Filipino Values natin when it comes to respecting Filipinas.
The case of Ms. Ramos vs. the Azkals members are already being investigated at the proper forum. Puede naman bumatikos si Clavio pero using propriety naman kasi he's a well-know and respected journalist. Pumepeg kasi siya kay Tulfo eh di naman bagay sa itsura niya, ayan napala niya.
Pang cover lng ito sa sexual harassment case nila. Booooo PFF. I support Arnold Clavio!!! Imagine, kung Isa k s GF ng askals anu n lng ang pinaguusapan nila about you s locker room? I can't imagine siguro kung paano sila mgboys talk!
Alam na nating may tinge of truth sa mga binitiwang salita ni Arnold Clavio, pero sana inisip din nya muna kung hindi ba makaka offend yung mga sinabi nya. Kahit hindi dito lumaki ang majority ng Azkals, the fact that they either have a Filipino mom or dad qualifies them to be Filipino. Minsan kasi ang mga journalists natin, they take full liberty of our freedom of speech, kaya they abuse it ng ganun ganun na lang. Pero eto lang tanong ko: NASUSUSTENTUHAN KAYA NI ARNOLD CLAVIO YUNG ANAK NYA KAY SARAH BALAGABAN? KUNG MAKAPAGSALITA NAMAN TONG ARNOLD CLAVIO NA 'TO KALA NYA ANG LINIS NYA!
Sabi sa letter nkapending na po ang kaso ng 2 azkals. May game pa sila at nsa ibang bansa pa. Anong action ang pwedeng gawin agad agad? Pwede po kayang hugutin ung dalawa at ipalit si clavio at arn arn?Hindi po dahil 100% pinoy ka e mabuting tao na? Wla po sa nationality ang usapan if pagkatao na po ng tao ay mayabang at manyak ganun na sya kht san ilagay. Sa ngayon po imbes na husgahan ang azkals e supportahan muna natin sila bilang representative ng Pilipinas hanggang matapos ang laban. Pag balik nila tska nila haharapin ang kaso nila at maparusahan kung totoong may sala. Hndi porket sinusuportahan ang team e kinukunsinte ang actions ng player outside ng field. Ang pagcheer skanila e pagcheer pra sa Pilipinas. Makakabuti to pra sumikat ang soccer dito at madami magkainteres sa sports na to, at madaming players na makuha na gusto ng ilan w/c is purong Pinoy. Di tulad sa ibang sa ibang bansa, united ang mga tao pag may mga national championship na kasali ang bansa nila. At Kung totoong pong concerned ang nakararami sa pambabastos sa mga Pilipina at di lang mga haters, ano po ang ngyari sa ilang celebries o personalities na na naaccuse ng rape at sexual harassment noon? Sikat na sikat pa din sila...
Wala naman aq nakitang masama sa sinabi ni arnold clavio. Totoomnmn saksakan ng yabang ang mga azkals na yan! A i agree dun sa comment nmkaya yang mga yan nsa pinas kc they cant even qualify dun s country n pinanggalingan nila! Bigla biglang nagiging pinoy?neknek! Havey nmn c java man hahaha
Ok, kung walang mali dun, ikaw magsabi sa mga naghihirap na OFW na kung magka-anak sila sa ibang bansa, huwag na silang umasa na itituring Filipino yung mga anak nila.
staka bakit sexual harrassment ang reklamo ni cristina ramos? mali ata un!!! ang definition ng sexual harassment ay dapat may "authority, influence or moral ascendancy over another ". may moral ascendancy ba ang mga player sa kanya? WALA!
dapat ang reklamo nya acts of lasciviousness!!! NKKLK!!!! reklamo reklamo pa mali mali pa!!! TSEEE!!!! kairita!
Kahit anu pa ginawa ng azkals, ang topic dito, si clavio. Jusko akala ko ba walang kinikilingan? Bakit wala pang imbestigasyon eh parang guilty na agad ang azkals? Kung bastos sila, fine! Hayaang imbestigahan yung case.
Pero ibang kaso yung ginawa ng puppet na yan. Yun ang topic dito. Ibang kaso na kung may kagaguhan ang azkals.
This is azkals vs clavio not azkals vs ramos and clavio.
I think they lodged a complaint because they are afraid they might be disqualified in this tournament when the players' nationality are being put into question by the people who are supposed to represent.
Ladies should not enter the locker rooms even if they are officials, the atmosphere is different there and they could always ask someone to do the checking for them. However, this is the 2nd incident wherein the Azkals were involved in the maltreatment of women... so may be there is something wrong with some of the players. I hope they resolve this case for everyone's satisfaction.
With regards to Mr. Clavio's statement, he could mask it as his editorial opinion but it doesn't erase the fact that he may be believing his own press and may have developed a bloated ego. This would be proven otherwise if he does acknowledge that he may have made an error of judgement.
haller! anong kinalaman ng sexual harassment s kulay ng tao at pagkaPILIPINO,.. khit anong lahi may bastos! hindi lng azkals nasagasaan nya, kundi pti ung may fil-foreign blood s buong mundo,. hindi nila ksalanan qng ipinanganak clang mag-kaiba ang lahi ng mga magulang nila! kaya tama lng ang ginawa ng PFF!
Azkals fan much? Ang sinabi ni clavio is related sa ginawa ng Azkals, which is sexual harassment and their upbringing. He's not referring to whether bastos na lahat ng mga foreigners or whatev. Libre gamitin ang common sense.
The truth hurts and totoo lang naman ang sinabi ni Arnold Clavio. Aminin man ng Azkals o hindi, binastos nila si Cristy Ramos. Sana nag-apologize instead na mag-justify. Hindi apology kung may kasamang justifications, kung sorry, sorry. Mas lalambot pa ang puso ko sa kanila kung nag-sorry ng tama at sabihing they are willing to suffer the consequences of offending the other party. Kse, sexual harrasment is sexual harassment. Kapag na-offend mo ang tao esp during the line of duty, pwede na syang magreklamo.
Tama din naman ang sinabi ni Clavio, hindi sila lumaki dito. Iba ang upbringing, iba ang culture, iba ang kinasanayang environment. Mas liberal sa kanila. At dahil dito, mas liberal sila sa lahat. Kaya sa Azkals, wala yun kse iba nga ang kinalakihan nila. So...ano ang mali dun sa sinabi ni Clavio?
Ang tanong ko lang eh, sumulat din ba ng ganyang pagkahaba-habang letter of complaint ang PFF sa management ng Azkals???? Kung nabastos kayo sa mga sinabi ni Clavio na totoo naman to begin with, dapat MAS nabastos kayo sa nangyari dun sa isang opisyal din ng koponan.
Let us stop putting these men on pedestals. Kaya lumalaki ang mga ulo eh. Marami pa silang dapat patunayan. Mas maraming atleta dyan na di hamak na mas magaling at mas nahihirapan "to give glory to the flag and country".
Bravo, Arnold Clavio!!! Wag kang papipigil sa pagsabi ng totoo. The truth hurth, but we need to hear it.
So this is where all the haters come to vent. Sige, magpakasawa kayo. I hope your hatred makes you feel fulfilled, and I hope you can sleep at night knowing that the champion you have chosen is a hate-mongering racist bigot who doesn't know the meaning of "innocent until proven guilty" or "Filipino" for that matter. Just don't go sharing your opinion with your bosses, chances are the people who own the companies you work for aren't kayumanggi enough to be considered Filipino by your idol.
Did you guys forget that Clavio is a radio commentator and that is a part of his job-to express his views and opinions? I know that channel 7 is a lousy channel to watch with all the exagerated way they deliver the news (Mike Enriquez is sobrang O.A.),but that's the job as a commentator.So please educate yourselves with that and avoid shooting the messenger.As for the AZKALS, you are rejects from the countries where you came from , suddenly realizing you have filipino blood in you, or maybe say you love the philippines , so you can come and be famous here without any decent effort and sexually harrass our women.We Filipino suckers patronize these mestizos because of our colonial mentality but we are missing out on imposing respect for our culture,our women,our values and our country.look at your comments here about how you adulate the Azkals.Someday if a sister or a girlfriend gets molested, then maybe that's when you realize that you should have taken a stand when you could.STUPID RACE this has become.Sayang.
ang yaman lang ni CLAVIO, against sexual harrasment daw, respeto sa kababaihan ang peg pero wag ka. according to WIKI which they already updated, he took advantage of SARAH BALABAGAN
Actually, hindi siya ang dapat makigitna sa issues ng babae. Muntik ko na nakalimutan yung nangyari kay Sarah. Problema kay Arnold mahilig siyang makieksena. I bet ang saya saya niya ngayon kasi siya ang paboritong topic ng Pilipinas.
I agree with Arn Arn's point of view although he sounded too colloquial like a chismoso sa kanto when said those, hehehe. Anyway, its the PFF's right to lodge a complaint and Arn Arn has the right to respond. Arn Arn can hold his own in this, I hope.
OA nila, porke ba AZKALS di na pwedeng batikusin? Pinanood ko yung video honestly kala ko minura mura sila at yung race nila kaso WAAAAAAH...Pero yeah, understandable naman kasi KAILANGAN NILA NG DIVERSION dahil dun sa issue ni Cristy. I admit for a newscaster sana mas naging EXTRA SENSITIVE si arn pero honestly? He doesn't deserve this! Yang mga AZKALS na yan masyadong nagpapaka-BABY. HOY AZwholes, WAKE UP! yan ang mahirap sa inyo masyadong SENSITIVE! Kaya nyong BUMASTOS ng babae pero simpleng batikos di nyo ma-take! CHEE!!
they're just using this issue to gain sympathy from the public. ginagamit lang nila si arnold clavio. sexual harassment is very serious, huwag sana magpalinlang ang nakakarami at kampihan pa ang mga nagkasala sa azkals. arnold clavio's opinions are true...maybe hurting but TRUE.
don't worry, the feeling is mutual. She doesn't like you too! I guess you don't know the meaning of "freedom of speech" do you? If you want her to shut up, then you should too
kanya-kanyang paraan lang naman yan eh. Ms. Ramos resulted to trial by publicity. inuna magpainterview, sa twitter pa mostly nalaman ng iba. Ngayon kung nakuha ng Azkals ang sympathy ng mga tao, malas lang ni Ms. Ramos kasi ang tange naman kasi ng adovacate niya na si Arn-arn, ng magcomment siya ng ganun. if may alam lang sana siya kahit kaunti sa football, di dapat sana alam niya na solid ang football community about racism. bawal na bawal yan. So ngayon, na trial by twitter si Arn-arn, na deflect yung issue. swerte ng azkals, malas ni ms. ramos.
Hypocrisy naman. Pag merong 1/8th na dugong Pinoy sa Hollywood, no matter how trashy (Vanessa Minillo, anyone?), proud na proud ang mga Pinoy! Pero itong mga Azkals, representing us globally at nakatira dito, making an effort to know Pinoy culture, "di naman talaga Pinoy"? WHATEVER!
ang daming nagga2lingan sa football dito akala mo may mga alam eh?check nyo nga karamihan sa mga national team ng ibang bansa puro half half din mga ingrata kau!ano un gusto nyo lang puro pinoy?ano ba nangyari sa basketball team natin na kahit puro pinoy eh wala namang nangya2ri sa mga national games?nsa atin pa ang 1st ever professional league sa asia pero wla prin tau sa number 1 sa asya mga nyetang haters sa football!pano naman kaming mhi2lig sa futbol?gs2 rn nman umangat 2lad ng gngwa ng azkals kau b my gngwa wla nman
okay lang if you're an avid fan of football or ng azkals or ng mga manlalarong may foreign blood. ok lang din na sabihin mong mas may nangyayari sa team pag may mga mestizo.. pero wag mo naman sabihing walang nangyayari sa mga teams pag purong pinoy lang ang players. they are training hard too. probably even harder than the azkals. sa basketball, mas lesser talaga ang possibility of reigning kasi nga mabababa talaga ang mga purong pinoy. it so happened na mas popular lang talaga ang basketball kaysa sa football dito sa pilipinas. Did you know that pure filipinos have greater chance to excel sa football with the right training? kasi hindi necessary ang height sa larong ito. but as i said, hindi lang talaga popular ang football sa atin kaya wala masyadong nagkaka-interest nag mag-train and probably kasi wala rin masyadong kaalaman ang nagte-train sa mga kaunting may interest. and idagdag mo pa dyan ang insufficient support ng government sa larong ito.
Dear 7:10 PM Yun pa nga lang hindi mo pagbilang sa mga purong Pinoy sa isang team, basketball man yan o football, ay isang uri ng diskriminasyon. ano sa tingin mo?
i agree. di kasi sikat football dito kaya wala masyadong mga bata naglalaro noon. pero with the kasikatan ng azkals ngayon with their underdog story, a lot of kids are now taking interest in the sport. dati mga football fields iilan lang eh. ngayon dumadami na sila at marami rami na ring batang naglalaro than before. in time magiging pure blooded pinoy rin mga players natin sa football if this keeps up. in time makakahanap ng bagong talents from this pool of kids na interested sa laro. with proper training and support from the government, we won't feel the need to borrow players from other courties. ngayon kasi dahil nga di sikat ang sport til now, we have to borrow players from european clubs kasi sa kanilang mga bansang pinaglakihan, numero uno ang football dun. nahasa na sila since bata. kaya sa mga football haters, patience lang. we will have our own grass root talents eventually. for now let's just support our team. it's our national team for crying out loud. they're carrying our flag.
sandali, di ba sa panahong nagdadalamhati dati si Sarah Balabagan, sinamantala ni Igan. Inanakan si Sarah! ano ba naman yan compared sa 'cupB' comment! itanong nyo ke tolpu!
tsaka hindi nga daw pwedeng sexual harrassment ang kaso kasi superior ang position ni cristy over the azkal players. dapat humingi ng sexual favor yung superior dun sa subordinate nya. hindi pasok eh. pero dapat i-sanction sa kabastusan at kawalang respeto at mag-public apology.
sabihin na naten may mali ang ibang miyembro ng Azkals...pero mali din naman ang ginawa ni Arnold Clavio, nagoopinion ng gnun....hndi masama maglabas ng opinion, pero as journalist, kailanagn maging maingat sila sa sabihin nila lalo n may tag-line ang istsyon nila ng WALANG KINIKILINGAN, WALANG PINOPROTEKTAHAN---- at ung isa pa na WALANG HALONG OPINYON.....oo freedom of expression pero mnsan dpat din naten isipin ang ethics ng field of work naten......the sexual harrasment case is under investigation pa rin..wala pang final na desisyon kung ginawa ba un ng 2 azkals or sadya lng naging sensitibo si cristina ramos...kaya mahirap magsalita or magbitaw ng opinyon na halatang may pinapanigan ka na...ang isang kaso ay hndi nagtatapos sa isang panig ng storya lng, meron din yang "another side of the story".......
kc yung mga cases against askals n sexual harassments he said-she said....eto kcng kay mr. clavio may recorded evidence. i guess if kcng gwapo at kcng tikas din ng mga askals c mr clavio ganun din sya kaangas. kasalanan din nung mga babae na pumapatol s knila.kung d mo nmn gusto d k nmn nila mapipilit d ba?as for ms ramos, dpt dun p lng nagsalita n sya na umayos sila ng gawa nila.she has the authority to do that nmn.she could've reprimanded them right there and then and called the attention of the team captain.
We are all entitled to have our own opinion, kaya nga may freedom of speech e. Mag martial law nalang ulit kung bawal magsabi ng opinion diba? I agree with him na nagpapanggap lang silang kayumanggi - this doesn't mean na pag Filipino kailangan kayumanggi, it's just a metaphor. Di nga sila makapagtagalog ng diretso pano mo tatawaging Filipino yun, diba ang wika hindi mahihiwalay sa kultura? They're comparing those players to PNoy e si PNoy only spent about 1/8 of his life sa ibang bansa e sila 3/4 ng buhay nila wala sila dito how would that help them incorporate the values and culture of a true Filipino in them? At least be man enough and admit your mistakes and apologize. Being in another country trying to win for the Philippines is not an enough excuse to not even try to reach out and make an effort to SINCERELY apologize. The incident with Ms. Ramos proved that Azkals are ASKALS and would never be ASPIN.
ingat sa mga binibitawang salita reporter ka pa namn baka inggit dahil guwapo ang mga azkal at di pa namn niya naririnig ang side ng aszkals hay kausapin mo na lang ang puppet mo
i understand arnold why he said those things, he has high regard for filipino women and treats them with respect. cguro may insecurity lang nga na dala ang mga comments nya kaya it was blown out of proportion. pero i still understand his point that such 'joke' should not be mentioned with a woman amidst men kahit na hindi sya ang puntirya nito.
he has high regard for filipino women? what about sarah balabagan? pinay rin. after buntisin, iniwan sa ere. high regard my ass!
if you listen closesly sa mga sinabi nya on air di na tungkol sa sexual harassment eh. patungkol na sa race eh. wala naman sa race ang paggawa ng krimen. kahit pinoy nakakagawa ng sexual harassment. so bakit pinasok ang race issue? ano konek nun? palusot lang yun na he's just anti-sexual harassment. anyone who buys his explanations are clearly biased. please pakilawakin ang isip.
i don't agree rin sa ginawa ng azkals kay christy pero race has nothing to do with the issue. tsaka di lang azkals pinatama ni clavio sa mga sinabi nya. whether he intended it or not, pati mga half filipinos all over the world eh naalienate nya.
put yourself in the shoes of other half-filipinos. yung tatay mo kungwari foreigner pero nanay mo pinay. tapos sabihan ka ng isang pinoy ng "di ka pilipino. nagpapanggap ka lang." ooh ouch...
let go of your biases and see how clavio's remarks are really racist...
Clearly, some commenters here know nothing about football.
One, you CANNOT play for your National Team if you don't have an ounce of your country's blood in you. The players you are talking about are as Filipino as you can get. Ang pagkakaiba lang, they were raised by a Filipino parent/s abroad.
Two, yung mga nagsasabi puro papogi lang ang mga players natin: OUR PLAYERS WERE HERE ALREADY EVEN BEFORE FOOTBALL WAS EVEN POPULAR IN THE COUNTRY. They have been fighting FOR THE FLAG for YEARS already, with or without support from fans. In fact, THEY GET CLOSE TO NOTHING for playing for the country, only, in the words of some of our players, the pride of playing for their NANAY's COUNTRY. The expenses they even cover themselves, airfare and all.
They did not grab the opportunity away from our home-based players. Fact is, we do not even have a decent football program to train home-based players well, that's why we had to resort to borrowing foreign-based FILIPINO players from their respective clubs in far-away countries. Isa pa, kung manonood kayo ng live sa Rizal Memorial Football Stadium, mapapansin ninyo na mas malakas ang sigaw ng mga tao para sa mga homegrown talent tulad nina Chieffy Caligdong at Ian Araneta, kumpara sa mga sinasabi ninyong foreign-based players. So anong pag-agaw ng suporta roon?
Three, the real issue here is Mr. Clavio's racial slur, not the sexual harassment issue. The sexual harassment issue is out of the question in this discussion. I am not siding with the Azkals here, as I believe, as a woman, if the players are PROVEN GUILTY, they must be punished, given that it is in the proper forum (a COURT). Clavio, as a JOURNALIST, should have known better than to let his emotions get in the way of a newscast. He is ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION, but he should have witheld his opinion until later, alone with his peers, friends or whomever, as the show, being a newscast, should be neutral in nature.
Clavio's comment did not only touch the nerve of football fans, but also those whose parents are OFWs, or are OFWs themselves. Having fairer skin, being born to a foreigner father/mother, being raised in another country, if you follow Clavio's logic, makes you an alien in your own country. Ano ang tama doon? Pati mismong Constitution, kinalaban niya ang definition.
Clavio should man up, offer a sincere apology, and this can all be forgotten. As for the sexual harassment case, let it have its day in court. If Moy and Guirado are proven guilty, then I'm all for sanctioning them.
The issue here is RACISM. I hope everyone, even those against the Azkals, unite to battle a discriminatory remark that has hurt a lot of people. Let us not tolerate such kind of behavior from a respected journalist like Arnold Clavio, who so easily demands an apology from other people yet cannot give one on his own. No to racism.
weh? not a fan girl? ah baka kasi di ka babae pero fan ka ng azkals. the sexual harassment issue isn't out of the picture here because arnold would not comment or give his opinion if there was no sexual harassment issue. you really are one heck of a fan blinded by the gorgeous faces of your idols.
yung tungkol sa Azkal vs Cristy... commisioner ba kayo or azkal player para masabi nyo kung sino ang nagsasabi ng totoo o kung sino ang may mali sa nangyari? don't get me wrong. I'm neither a fan nor hater of Azkals and/or Cristy Ramos. I'm just saying, you don't know the truth, you don't have the facts, you weren't even there when it happened; therefore, you don't have the right to judge anyone of them, be it Azkal or Cristy.
yung tungkol kay Clavio... again... I'm neither a fan nor hater of clavio and/or gma7. pero sa narinig ko, at napanood ko, racist at malicious yung mga sinabi ni clavio. he pertained the whole Azkal team as "not Pinoy" and that he distinguished himself from the Azkals as "not Pinoy" (by pointing) at (his) heart and mind.
ay nako, ewan ko na lang, ha. pero pag hindi nyo maintindihan na yung ginawa ni Clavio ay napaka-irresponsable, ang masasabi ko lang ay panatiko kayo ni clavio and/or gma7. o kaya naman ay bulag kayo sa katotohanan. yes, he is entitled to have his own opinion. but it is not his place as a news and public affairs personality to make unnecessary remarks. he should have just stick to the issue (azkals vs cristy) at walang kinilingan.
thanks! finally a sensible comment! kanina pko nagbabasa ng comments and lalo lang bumigat puso ko sa mga nabasa ko. it's so sad that people are willing to back up clavio despite his below the belt remarks dahil lang malaki galit nila sa azkals.
i'm not a fan of azkals but i do love and play the sport. it's sad that people think na kaya lang sikat ang football ngayon dahil gwapo mga players. that's so not true. us fans of the sport have been around for a long time but it is only now that nakikita kami kasi finally we have a national team to cheer for when dati we use to watch lang sa bars rooting for european teams sa uefa or san pa. ngayon lang rin nagiging visible mga batang naglalaro ng football dahil na rin sa media mileage sa biglang interes sa football pero matagal na rin may mga naglalaro ng sport na yan sa bansa natin di lang halata. nakatulong pa na dumadami mga fields na pwede paglaruan dahil sa media mileage na dala ng azkals.
looks have nothing to do with love for the game. i'm a girl and naoffend ako sa sinabi nina clavio that porke gwapo we are willing to throw ourselves sa kanila. not so. i just happen to love the game.
while i don't like what lex said (i also believe na di sadya ni angel na nakashorts lang nung lumapit kay christy), di pa nahahatulan ang kaso. til then, let's stick to the issue. let's not bring in the issue of breed-breed or half-half. race has nothing to do with any crime. kahit pinoy nagsesexual harassment. ano tawag kay clavio na nagtake advantage kay sarah balabagan tapos after anakan eh iniwan? so if susundan ko logic ni clavio, sasabihin ko rin dko sya kakultara dahil sa ginawa nya?
Pwde naman kasi syang bumatikos eh kaso ngalang parang below the belt naman ung ibang sinabi nya, kung my issue man ng sexual harrasment ung ibang players ng azkals wag naman po sanang lahatin po, kasi marami din po sigurong ibang players na matitino rin, sana naman before sya mg batikos isipin nya muna kung ano yung mga pinagsasabi nya, at sa iba naman na ng comment po sana palawakin natin ung pagiisip at pg intindi natin sa issue, ang bilis lng natin mg comment dahil ng papadala po tayo sa mga emosyon natin.
I find it ironic that Arnold Clavio gets all hung up on Azkal controversy as if he’s the one that got all diddled on them mantitz. If you go back a decade, he fathered a child from Sarah Balabagan who happened to be a rape survivor. He left her and didn’t even bothered giving child support. He even denied that the child was his. Which is bad, making fun about bra size or take advantage of a vulnerable girl and left her with a child?
Tama! Pa sakin tama lang ang sinabi ni Arnold. Nagkataon lang na TV personality sya kaya nagsipagreact ang mga linis-linisan. MArami namang tao na yun din ang nasa isip, mahirap nga lang magvoice-out dahil baka kuyugin ng mga pantards ng Azkal sa pangunguna ni NGIWI
Honestly, I didn't see any racist remark in Arn-arn's comments. It would have been racist if he shunned out all Fil-halfs but in his case, he pointed out specifically to some members of Azkals only. And admit it or not, the truth hurts. The issue would never be brought up, in the first place, IF these Azkals have acted and behaved properly, the way Filipinos would, especially towards women. The PFF is just making a big mountain out of a molehill. Coverup issue anyone?
Gahd! Focus on improving Philippine's Football first ... 100 years eh? san banda?
bakit cla Jessica Sanchez at Thia Megia ng american idol mukha talagang pinoy na pinoy unang tingin ko pa lang ba't yung Azkals mga half-pinoy pala d ko akalain nung una ko cla nkita sa tv... half-pinoy cla..ba't ganon?
sabe ng tatay ko may kaibigan cla babae galing america ata yun umuwi ng pinas. nkasaky cla sa van pupuntang province. ang sabeh, hinto mo muna jan sa tabi iihi lang ako..umihi sya sa damuhan malapit sa kalsada. nkatingin nga cla tatay non sa babae na umiihi.pgbalik sa van,tnanong ng tatay ko ung babae na "hindi ka ba nahihiya?" sgot ng girl "hnde". .sbe ng tatay ko smen, natural na cguro yun sa mga tao from other countries.gnon ang kultura nla. nung cnabe ni tatay yun, naalala ko yung news na c Justin Bieber at Selena Gomez e naghahalikan sa beach.taz yung mga show sa America na napapanood sa ch.9 like Jerry Springer Show na mey nagpapakita ng b**bs, The Bachelor/Bachelorette na mei mga halikan khit d pa cla mg-bf/gf or mg-asawa.
The PFF has gone sensitive re the matter, forgetting that when Ms. Ramos raised a complaint re the boys, they did not take the same course of action (action agad). Opinion lang din ni Arnold Clavio 'yun, yes, mali siya kasi as an anchor na taga-relay ng balita, naging sensitive siya dapat. Pero with Ms. Ramos, official siya, sana nabigyan din ng urgency yung pag-tackle sa pino-point out niya na she felt harassed sa actions ng players.
ReplyDeletekorek ka! ngaun ung sympathy ng tao nasa Azkals because of a simple opinion although mali nga kc anchor sya, pero we never heard anything sa case na sinampa ni Ms. Ramos
DeleteHindi ba formal complaint lang din naman ito tulad ng ginawa ni Ms. Ramos? Hindi ba nakaschedule na ang hearing for the complaint of Ms. Ramos sa pagbalik ng mga players?
Deletei agree! i think part yan ng promotion ng football sa pinas kaya kumuha sila ng mga guwapo. alam naman nilang weakness yan ng mga pinoy, yung mga may accent, kaya mas madaling makilala ang football.
Deletetsaka di naman talaga sila ugaling Pinoy dahil hindi sila lumaki dito. bakit kasi hindi magsuporta ng mga local talents at mag-invest sa training para naman hindi mga British accent ang mga players natin. puro tayo import ng import. gusto biglang yaman. kaya wala tayong asenso.
Tamaaa! Ironic nga e. Ang bilis nakapaghain ng complaint at ang haba pa. Pero sa case ni ms. Ramos tikom pa rin bibig nila!
Deletehindi lang lumaki sa pinas, di na ugaling pinoy? may mga pinoy na lumaki sa pinas pero bastos pa rin.
DeleteMiss Ramos' case is already in court, what else should the PFF do?
DeleteMr. Clavio of all people should know that the Azkals, or some members of the team, are innocent until proven guilty. It was so unprofessional...
Regardless kung totoo ang issue sa Azkals or not, its unprofessional and irresponsible.
DeleteNaglabas na po ng statement ang dalawang akusado na players at meron nang naghihintay na imbestigasyon sa kanilang pagbalik sa bansa. Unless gusto ng mga tao na by email or phone call lang ang imbestigasyon.
DeleteCorrect! Ang bilis nila magcomplain if they are being criticized pero they can't even check their own backyard...
DeleteNakaka-disappoint that these officials keep pampering and protecting this team...
siguro PBA fan kayo?
Deletekaya sila hindi agad pumalag is because they have a tournament to play and complete in. they wanted to focus first and trying to win. for who? for the country's pride and glory. pagbalik, either panalo or talunan, tsaka nila harapin ung issue nila.
Deletepak na pak swak na swak!!! yan din nasa isip ko ayaw ko lang magpakanega kasi angdaming haters pag may sinabi ka sa azkals....
Deletei think mabilis ang action ng PFF dahil #1. Football is anti racism. if iche-check natin, racism is a big issue when it comes to the football community. May mga summit pa nga na ginagawa for that. #2. The person involved (mr. clavio) is just within the boundaries of the country, unlike with Ms. Cristy's case na yung accused players are in Nepal.
Deleteopinion ko lang naman.
ok na rin yan para masampulan din si Mr. Arnold Clavio.
ReplyDeleteirresponsible journalism
Deleteirresponsible journalism? sino mas irresponsable? si Clavio o yung Azkals? Think again bi***!!!! anu ka hilo? si Clavio yung irresponsible? siguro na sampulan ka din ng Azkals kaya ang ganda ng defense mo...
DeleteWHile I slightly agree, I would also like to say irresponsible behaviour and conduct becoming of a national team...
DeleteTo 6:32 am. Pwede ba. As much as i agree with most of what arnold clavio said, it is STILL irresponsible journalism. As a media figure (and im not talking about showbiz actors) you should maintain a ground of neutrality. Yeah its cool, its his opinion about the azkals, wala tayong magagawa dun. Its what he feels eh. Pero to say it on national tv and on a morning news program?
DeleteAt pwede, walang sisihan kung sino ang may mali o hindi? Eh di may mali azkals. Eh di mali rin si clavio. Pending naman ang case. Ngayon, bakit ka sobrang defensive? PWEDE BA.
To 06:32
DeleteBoth are to be reprimanded because both are major offenses (sexual harassment and racism/irresponsible journalism). So wag ka magalit. Both are pending investigation and rightly so.
Yung sa Azkals po, may punishment na ba sa ginawa nila? Kasi, kahit dalawa lang ang nambastos ng deretsahan, bakit walang sumaway sa kanila doon? Nagtawanan pa. Napanood ba nila ung "The Accused"?
ReplyDeleteAt commissioner pa ang binastos
DeletePending investigation po. Wait lang tau.
DeleteKita mo ilang beses na silang narereklamo about sa sexual harassment lagi na lang pinapalampas ng mga tao tapos ngayon may naglakas ng loob na mag salita todo complain sila. In the first place hindi naman mag sasalita si arnold ng ganyan kung hindi sila nang bastos. Sa totoo lang tama naman lahat ng sinabi ni arnold. Masyadong overrated ang askals wala naman inuuwing medal unlike other filipino teams na nag uumapaw ang medal pero hindi napapansin ng govt.
ReplyDeleteTrue! Ditto!
DeleteAno pa bang mga teams ang naguumapaw ng medal na hindi napapansin ng gobyerno? Sabihin natin kay MVP na suportahan niya tulad ng ginawa niya sa Gilas.
DeleteHindi ang gobyerno ang gumagastos para sa Azkals.
Hi. Pakihanap at paki-intindi na rin kung anong definition ng 'sexual harassment.' At sino ba si Arnold para maging arbiter ng mga pangyayari at sabihing hindi sila Filipino? Kung ganyan mga pronouncements niya sa SHowbiz Central siya sumali at wag sa news and current affairs.
DeleteIsang malaking check! I have never understood & probably never will understand the hype over these guys. Marami pong mas magagaling na atletang Pinoy na hindi pinapansin kasi walang British accent? Hindi Tisoy? And please, Ms. Girlfriend of Mr. Younghusband, dont even start with racism, or discrimination thingy with me. Utang na loob, ilang sexual harrassment complaints pa bago maumay ang Pinoy?
Delete-jackiekay
Oo nga, akala ko ba Gabriela pa naman siya. Laki na ng pinagbago niya mula nung naging bf niya si tisoy.
DeleteNo surprise. tabloid style naman ang "journalism" ng channel 7. pati si jessica soho na formerly hard-hitting war reporter, pinapagreport na ngayon tungkol sa mga jejemon, iba't ibang halo halo, etc. sinayang nila talent ng good journalists.
ReplyDeleteweh? magsama kau ng azkals mo.. kung mkajejemon k naman.. wagas..
Deletesus! ngaun sensitive sila kasi tinira sila ng media?! bakit? naging sensitive ba sila nung binastos nila si cristy ramos?! ang galing din nila magdivert ng issue nila sa iba.. haynaku
DeleteWhether tabloid style or formal style... the fact is that news has an opinion portion... it is his own opinion.... the bottom line is that Ramos was improperly treated as a woman... and the Azkals are improperly treated as gods... tinitingnan niyo yung azkal parang deity when they are people that need to step down and learn to say sorry and accept their mistakes...
Deletewhaa!baka naman isa ka sa Gf ng azkals kung maka tira ka kahit wala sa topic eh ganun nalang
Deleteexcuse lang ano, medyo OT lang ito... pero regarding sa sinasabi mong jejemon at halo-halo reports ni jessica soho.. paalala ko lang, ano, magazine show po sila... so kung anong patok, yun ang gagawan ng istorya. gaya mo ngayon, at gayan ko na rin, kung anong patok na k'wento, dun ka magkukomento.
Deleteanong tabloid dun? journalists can be both objective (news) and subjective (editorial) specially if they need to shape public opinions thru their value judgment... both a right and an obligation.
DeleteKe mahal ng mga ticket eh wala pa naman silang medalya. Please, hindi na yata nagiging maganda ang nangyayari sa ating society ngayon. Kapag hindi ka kumakain ng Magnum, di ka raw "cool". Pag di mo type football, baduy ka. Magkaroon naman tayo ng pagmamahal sa sariling atin.
Deletekung makatira ka nman kay ms. jessica soho at sa show nya..every year at halos every month humahakot pareho ng award c ms. j.s. at kmjs.
Delete"Are they less Filipino than those who grew up entirely in the Philippines?" - Are they Filipino citizen or holding a dual citizenship? You can't run for government office if you have dual citizenship because there is a doubt on a person's allegiance. So kung equal lang ang laki satin sa laki outside the country e bakit nga pag mag run for government office kailangan maging full pledge Filipino citizen.
ReplyDeleteI watched their game against India and it was obvious that they will win but they do not have a chance against North Korea.
Clavio was just stating his opinion, PFF is being so sensitive. Just man up and apologize, period. I personally share Clavio's statements. It seems that the Azkals are getting away with everything they do. This has nothing to do w/ their race/nationality. It has EVERYTHING do with professionalism and respect. OA ka.
ReplyDeleteIt has something to do with nationality kasi sinabi ni arnold na di sila lumaki sa pinas. Moreover, Philippine national team therefore kailangan pinoy so again the nationality. Lastly, eveyone is saying na their attitude is like that because they do not share the same values or traditions ng mga pinoy. Saka, it does not have anything to do with professionalism but respect i'll agree with you.
Delete"It has EVERYTHING to do with professionalism and respect"
DeleteSame goes with Clavio, especially because he's a journalist. Don't get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree that the Azkals that were involved should indeed be sanctioned once the allegations are proven.
Sa tingin ko lang is that medyo na-carry away dahil sa galit si Clavio kaya niya nasabi yung "hindi tunay na pinoy". Baka kung hindi niya sinabi yon, hindi naman magagalit ang PFF.
Call it tabloid journalism, whatever... it's called his opinion. Maybe if the Azkals don't want to hear anything negative about them they should stop doing negative crap.Ans PFF and fans, please stop babying them. Yun lang pow.
Delete"This has nothing to do with their race/nationality" Good line but u used it for a wrong point. Talagang the sexual harassment case has NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR NATIONALITY. Kaya Mr. Clavio should be sanctioned with racism as well kc he used their race as a reason on why the accused are capable of the supposed crime they committed. IF FOUND GUILTY, SANCTION BOTH OF THEM (some Azkals and Clavio)!
DeleteHindi yung opinion niya in general ang problema, ang problema ay yung racial prejudice. Hindi kasi tayo sanay sa mga ganitong problema, pero sa ibang bansa labag ito sa batas.
DeleteKung puti na broadcaster ang nagsabi sa States o sa UK na ang mga half-white ay hindi naman talaga Americano o Brit, ang laking gulo nun. White supremacist labas niya nun at pwede siyang kasuhan.
Yung idea ng racial purity ang ideologia na nagtayo sa Nazi party, kaya nakakagulat yung mga ibang commenter dyan na laman ng bibig ay "pure Filipino". Akala ata nila na patriotic sila pero actually racist sila.
Hindi lang naman kasi brown/kayumanggi ang pwedeng maging Pinoy. Paano na ang mga lahing Chinese, Spanish, at iba pang dayuhan? Ni si Rizal at si Bonifacio hindi purong kayumanggi.
anubey! ALam naman nating lahat na totoo ang mga sinabi ni arn arn. It's just that mali lang dahil he's a journalist/reporter. He should've been more sensitive with his comments. But nonetheless, it's just the same sentiment that most of us think about the azkals. Anyare na pala ung parusa sa mga bastos na azkals? Wala parin? I won't be surprised. :)
ReplyDeletetama ka! pero ung set up kasi ng show is open for commentaries, overboard yes, but so are the tulfo brothers, ted failon sometimes, and kabayan... y don't they make a fuss out of it? because it isnt askalz. groupie kasi ung mga nagooverreact sa twitter. pareact react pa ang season's favorite na si tambok, wait lang sya pag mismong bidyo na ng jowa nya ang masaksihan nya. naku diba? si bula na maxadong maka social climb kahit saang barkadahan go na go. todo tawag ng bobo sa dating biktima (kuno) pero sya naman, sunud sunuran sa mga mayayaman nya tropapips. If i know, inaakit nya ung mga azkals sa peke nyang ilong.
DeleteClavio said a true but nonetheless irrelevant point. Anyone, irregardless of sex and race, can be a victim of or commit harassment. Dpat masanction ung accused Azkals and also Clavio if found guilty.
DeleteAng point lang ni arn arn, wag silang magpakayabang dahil hindi naman sila lahat purong pilipino to start with. Ang gulo gulo na nga sa Pilipinas dadagdag pa ang mga manyak na azkals na yan!
ReplyDeleteKorek!!! cguro kaya pangalan nila Azkals... kasi asong kalye yung mga galaw ng mga football players na yan... di ba yung mga asong kalye sa gitna ng kalye nag bebreeding???????? cguro the same sila....
DeleteKorek na my check! Come to think of it laging kasali ang mga azkal players sa mga ganito issue... Parang lahat ba ito eh accusation lng or tlagang malalakas ang loob nila na gawin ang lahat dhil meron silang SINANSANDALAN NA MATATAG... Hmmm.
DeleteTama ang mga host...kailangan masampolan ang mga azkals!!!Sampol sampol sampol sampol!!!!
ReplyDeletetumpak na tumpak!! yayabang naman kasi talaga! buti nga me matapang na katulad ni arn arn nag kayang magsalita nga ganoon!! lahat ng accusations sa kanila wala daw katotoohanan!! parati na lang!! yayabang!!!
DeletePeople are so darn sensitive. Why lodge a comment against an opinion? In a sense, tama naman si Arnold. Maybe we should start training pure Filipinos sa sports na yan. Ewan ko lang ha, pero when i see these Azkals, wala ako makitang trace of anything Filipino sa kanila. Ang pagiging Pilipino, nasa puso, nasa gawa. Sa ginawa ng mga Azkals kay Ms. Ramos, hindi gawain ng tunay na Pinoy. Ang tunay na Pinoy, may respeto sa babae, hindi nambabastos. Nasa labas ka man ng dug out o nasa loob.
ReplyDeleteReally? So, non-existent sa pure Pinoy ang sexual harassment. Wala pa talagang pure Pinoy na naka-commit ng sexual harassment? That's a joke right? What fantasy Philippines are you living in? Wake up. The race here in any sexual harassment issue is irrelevant!
DeleteUnder Article 353 of the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines, libel is defined as a public and malicious imputation of a crime, or of a vice or defect, real or imaginary, or any act, omission, condition, status or circumstance tending to discredit or cause the dishonor or contempt of a natural or juridical person, or to blacken the memory of one who is dead. Thus, the elements of libel are: (a) imputation of a discreditable act or condition to another; (b) publication of the imputation; (c) identity of the person defamed; and, (d) existence of malice. [Daez v. Court of Appeals, G.R. No. 47971, 31 October 1990, 191 SCRA 61, 67]
ReplyDeleteme ganoon?!!!
DeleteI think kung ganyan ang standards ng LIBEL sa Pilipinas, well, malabo na manalo ang azkals. Kasi yung pagkasabi ni Arnold hindi sya malicious.. Parang sort of "Lecture" hindi sya yung tipong mala Lolit Solis. getching?
DeleteI agree. In fairness, mas may pinagaralan FP readers kesa sa mga nagccomment sa yahoo ph. Ka highblood mga comment dun. I agree with Arn arnm yun lang mali kc journalist xa, dapat wala kinikilingan ang tema. Pero hanga ako at kampi xa sa pilipino. Tayo nga nahihiya pag may kababayan na ginagawang kabalbalan sa ibang bansa e, tapos mabatikos lang ang Azkals racist kagad? Hindi ba pwedeng nabuset muna?
ReplyDeleteThe comments in this post just shows how ignorant and insensitive people are about the issue of racism. And the fact that many still do not realize that even after seeing the incriminating clip proves my point.
ReplyDeleteThe case against the Philippine Azkals members are still in the process of being investigated. None of the allegations have been proven yet. However, Arnold Clavio's raging racism is broadcast on national television for all to see and is irrefutable. I believe the PFF has every right to complain and I salute them for doing so.
This comment shows just how ignorant and insensitive someone is about the real issue.
Deleteok ka lang?!! wag kang magbulagbulagan jan!!! dami mo dakdak!!
DeleteTo the comments: Please disprove the claim that Arnold Clavio's statements are racist: "Hindi naman kayo Pilipino. Nagpapanggap lang kayong kayumanggi. Hindi kayo dito lumaki". If you can present your case in an intelligent manner then maybe I'll listen. But so far, all the comments I've seen defending Clavio's actions have been pointless and obviously misdirected. Mabuti ng dada ng dada, basta may sense, di tulad nyong defend ng defend wala namang alam.
DeleteI agree with 07:33AM. And to 04:39pm and 07:00pm, how judgmental of your to conclude na pag sinabing dapat ding i-sanction si Clavio, pro-Azkal na. Hello!! Lawakan ang pag-iisip. Merong anti-Azkal, merong Anti-Clavio. At meron din anti-sexual-harassment-and-racism. Pareho kasing offense un. Dpat tlaga sila i-sanction pareho IF FOUND GUILTY.
DeleteTime to burst their egos. Respect women if they want to get respect. Go cry to your momys kids.
ReplyDeletewinner!!!!!
Deletewala pang napaptunayan azkals. dahil dito dapat di n rin sila suportahan ng media. as for clavio, i adore him para s tapang... although mali ung pamamaraan nya... as for azkals, prove yourselves muna... kung hindi dahil s suporta ng bawat FILIPINO s inyo.. wala kayo.. hindi kayo sisikat.
ReplyDeletego, arnold, go! tell those azkals what they really are
ReplyDeleteang yayabang ng mga asal azkal na ito ang mag manyak at mambatos pwede ang mag bigay ng opinion at alam ng lahat na kung ikaw ang nasa katayuan ni MS. Ramos o kaibigan,kamag anak o nasa matitinong pag iisip kanino ka papabor syempre sa babaeng nabastos,kahit man lang sa opinion eh matira o makanti man lang ang mga mukhang bangus na azkals na yan..abah! may lakas ng loob pa silang mag reklamo,sagutin muna nila ang mga nagrereklamo sa kanila,kung may nasabi man ang mga taga UH humingi na sya ng paumanhin pero agree ako na pinanindigan nya ung sinabi nya against azkals!
ReplyDeleteha ha mukhang bangus talaga pero kaya nga ang daming nabubuang kase ang sarap ng bangus
DeleteAng bilis nilang mag-react about Arn-arn. Kulang na lang i-demand nila na ipatanggal sa 7. Pa-demand demand pa ng apology. Samantalang pagdating sa kaso ni Cristy Ramos, wala man lang nag-apologize. Ay meron daw pala. "Sorry kay Cristy Ramos, pero ganoon talaga ugali ng mga lalaki sa mga locker room nila eh." Sus!
ReplyDeleteHay naku bakit kasi halos dini-diyos yang mga Azkals na yan. Pag may nagreklamo na babae, automatically iniisip na kesyo sinisiraan daw sila, kesyo pinu-put down ang Philippine football, kesyo ginagamit lang daw ang Azkals para sumikat. Sus! Mga perpekto ba yang mga yan na hindi capable na mambastos ng tao, lalo pa sa babae? Sus! Sus!
I'm not defending Clavio; I'm not even a fan. It's obvious naman he went overboard in his opinion. Pero mas malala naman ang mga anchors ng Channel 2 sa pagiging overboard no? Nagkataon lang na may kontrata ang mga Azkals sa channel 2. Kung wala, of course sila ang mauuna sa pagtuligsa sa mga yan!
Hay naku bakit kasi halos dini-diyos yang mga Azkals na yan. Pag may nagreklamo na babae, automatically iniisip na kesyo sinisiraan daw sila, kesyo pinu-put down ang Philippine football, kesyo ginagamit lang daw ang Azkals para sumikat. Sus! Mga perpekto ba yang mga yan na hindi capable na mambastos ng tao, lalo pa sa babae? Sus! Sus!
Delete- nakakalungkot pero totoo ito!!! :(
And if I may add, talaga namang marami nang hangin sa ulo yang karamihan sa mga Azkals na yan simula nung sumikat.
ReplyDeleteI highly agree. Wala naman sa mga yan ang gustong maging Filipino talaga. They just want to bask in the perks of pretending to be one dahil sa atensyon na binibigay sa kanila. Layas!
Deletebasta TEAM ARN ARN aketch! boooh sa TEAM _ANYAK
ReplyDeleteoh puh-leez! yung mga kumakampi lang naman sa mga azkals na yan e mga madaling mauto ng mga magaganda katawan at mukhang foreign-germs. Lakas nyo makabanat ng mga kaso e sa opinion naman ng tao yun e. at totoo naman e! dito ba sila lumaki? naranasan na ba nila mamuhay as a real filipino? ni hindi nga siguro marunong mag commute mga yan. so please shut up. isa pa tong si Angel Locsin. papansin ka te? masyadong affected? d naman nabanggit yang jowa mo. ahhh.... kasi waley ka na naman exposure no? hay naku. PFF, azkals and angel; just shut your pieholes ok?
ReplyDeletepersonally, i agree with arnold clavio. There must be truly something with this society of ours that we choose to let foreigners play for our home team. Admit it, majority of the Azkal players barely even speak tagalog. I believe that we can develop players on our own without dependence on imports or whatever, they are referred to. The imp in me might even go so far as to say that..."these players probably never will be able to join the leagues of the countries where they are originally from; which is they are all suddenly Filipinos by blood".. just to be able to form a team..... With regards to the complaint of Ms. Ramos, well, just apologizing doesn't even begin to cut it. These Azkals are already full of themselves that they think their good looks can justify whatever actions they do, even to the point of rudeness. It's a good thing that Ms. Ramos lodged her complaint.
ReplyDeletei smell network war! this issue will die down because of the mentality that winning in the tournament is best for the country. i am aghast at some comments in other social networking sites that trivialized the complaint of ms. ramos.
ReplyDeleteSan na nga ba si freedom of speech? Kahit n negative ung sinabi or ang dating ng pgkasabi ni igan,its still the other half of the story. Most ppol will agree with igan's statements. Its just that, pff heard and watched it on tv. Pano kapag ordinaryong tao ang mgsasabi non, maghahain ba ng reklamo ang PFF?
ReplyDeleteSiguro pag nsa ibang bansa ung nanyari, wat they did is fine. But then agen, nsa pilinas sila and ppol here are conservative and mindful of others.
FP, baka one day ikaw at ang mga commenters dto mkakatangap din ng letter from PFF.
Peace out! :)
Yun nga ang point -- kung ordinaryong tao lang ang nagsabi, walang problema at walang pakialam ang PFF. Actually, kahit kung si Arnold ang nagsabi pero sinabi niya off camera, walang issue. Yun ang freedom of speech.
DeletePero once sinabi niya on air sa isang network show yung kanyang racist opinion, dun nagkaroon ng problema. Halot lahat nung panlalait niya, pwede pa, pero nung sinabi niya na nagpapanggap lamang na kayumanggi yung mga half-Fil na players, dun siya nadenggoy. Ang kayumanggi ay race, ang pagiging Filipino ay nationality. Parang sinabi niya na rin na ang pwede lang maging Filipino ay purong kayumanggi.
Kung sinabi niya yon sa tv sa ibang bansa, mas lagot siya. Seryosong issue ang racial prejudice sa first world. Imagine mo kung may puting broadcaster sa States na nagsabi na mga puti lang ang totoong Amerikano, ngayon pa sa administration ni Obama? Sisante agad siya. Yung isang taga ESPN nga nasisante dahil lang ginawa niyang biro yung Asian origin ni Jeremy Lin.
Sa susunod, mag-research ka naman ng konti bago ka dumadakdak.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but when you are a public personality, you have to be very careful with what you are saying...Clavio might just be voicing out his sentiments but he was being racist and discriminatory . He has apologized though but the damage has been done.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, we are so use to the trial by publicity being done in our country that we don't even wait for the concerned officers to do their job...
Sa aking palagay ay wala namang sinabing 'hindi tama' si Mr. Clavio. kaya siguro nasasaktan yung iba, kasi lahat ng sinabi niya eh totoo. At offended sila na madinig ang totoo.
ReplyDeleteMeron akong kaibigan na member ng fansclub nila (di ko na i-me-mention kung anong fan club kasi na feature na sila sa isang docu)
Naroon daw sila kesyo para may mag cheer at ma-inspire na mag-uwi ng medalya ang mga ito. Hooo! Mga plastik! Hindi naman sila naroon pala para sa Pilipino. naroon sila para may pag pantasyahan sila.
Kung after kayo sa karagalan ng Pilipino, cheer niyo rin yung Dragon Boat Team o di kaya ibang atleta na tunay na nag-uuwi ng karangalan sa Pilipinas.
Hindi naman guwapo si Guirado sa tunay lang, mukha siyang taong Java sa sinaunang panahon. Feeling guwapo lang iyang mga iyan.
Okay ang punto kasi rito, dapat matuto silang rumespeto. wala bang nag-orient sa kanila na ang mga babae rito eh iginagalang?
Exactly! TRUTH HURTS!
DeleteWhat i understand from "hindi Pilipino" at "hindi kalahi" e hindi sila pareho ng kinalakhang tradisyon, pananaw, ugali o paniniwala. Una na dyan ang pagrespeto sa kababaihan. Sa tingin ko, guilty naman talaga yung 2 player sa sexual harassment at akala nila e makakalusot sila.Siguro nga mali yung mga salitang ginamit niya pero sampal talga yun sa kanila para magising sila.
ReplyDeleteAno kaya kung sila din ang pag-usapan ng "siguro 2 inches lang yan", ?matutuwa ba kayo? hay!
I agree with you. The Azkals and PFF need to say it... they effed with the wrong girl! Just kiss her feet, apologize, and move on. Sucks to be them.
DeleteYour opinion of "respeto sa kababaihan" as a Filipino value is admirably high but overly idealistic. It's a Filipino value alright but it doesn't follow na pag pure Pinoy ka marunong ka rumespeto sa kababaihan which is ur point above and syang mali kay Clavio. Just ask how many cases of sexual harassment/rape are committed by PURE PINOYs, and you'd be surprise of the figure. Wag na ka lumayo, basahin mo na lang ung news about sa batang babae na nirape sa Laguna yata un, or the sampaguita girl rape case. PURE PINOY gumawa nun. Di nila nirespeto ang kababihan. Don't get me wrong. Im a proud pinoy and I too would like to believe that we respect girls but I dont claim that just because I Pinoy doesnt mean I respect girls MORE compared to other races. That is what's wrong with the point of Clavio. My 2 cents.
DeleteHave Ms. Ramos file a complaint in court, wag na sa PFF at wala siyang mapapala dun. masyado silang sensitive sa opinyon ni arnold pero di nila maisip ang babaeng nabastos. wala ba silang mga nanay o kapatid na babae?
ReplyDeleteCurious nga ako kung ano ang stand ng PFF sa side ng biktima eh.
DeleteYou're so sure they're guilty kahit kulang pa ang information mo, bakit pa kailangan ng court? Ang galing galing mong humusga naunahan mo pa yung AFC at PFF, kaya ikaw na lang ang humarap na Judge sa kanila! At pagkatapos mong ideklera silang threat to society, ipabitin mo sila sa isang poste ng Rizal Stadium kung saan mapapanood mo sila habang nagpipicnic sa field. O ayan, happing happy na kayong lahat.
DeleteBASTOS PA RIN ANG ASKALS.
ReplyDeleteMali naman kasi si Mr. Clavio. News anchor sya. Akala ko ba walang kinikilingan? Haha sana sinarili nya na lang ung opinion nya, dalawa lang naman ung may case. Bakit ni-lahat nya? Grabe pala bunganga ni arn arn. Hindi kaya bitter sya? And morning show un, baka may mga bata na nanunuod.
ReplyDeletedapat lang kay arnold clavio racism naman talaga ung ginawa nya kahit sang anggulo nyo tingnan eh
ReplyDeletekapag may Pinoy sa American Idol sasabihin nyong "Pinoy yan" at kapag may Fil-Am na gusto maglaro sa NT ng basketball sasabihin nyo Pinoy yan... pero kapag football, hindi Pinoy? Anong kabobohan yun? :)
tama!
DeleteExactly! Pag advantage sa lahi natin we claim them as Pinoy kahit di kayumanggi or lumaki dito as Clavio said or kahit di marunong magsalita ng Tagalog or kahit layo ng Pinoy blood nila basta Pinoy sila dahil pride un. Pero pag masamang issue, kahit Pinoy nationality talaga pinagpipilitan natin na hindi! Hypocrites, bigots and social climbers! Shameful really.
Deletemay point c Arn-arn and I'm sure most people share the same sentiments,only the flaw is with how he executed it. D naman lahat but most of the foreign memebers of the group have that sense of entitlement and that rockstar disposition because most of us let them be and tolerate it! sampolan sana ni Ms. Ramos to sa pagbalik nila.
ReplyDeletetumpak na may malaking PAK!!!
DeleteThis case is PFF on behalf of the national team vs Arnold Clavio. Iba po yung case ni Ms. Ramos vs 2 members of the national team. Clarong clarong na iba ang mga accuser and accused di ba? Pinagpipilitan lang ni Arnold na ipaghalo yung dalawang issue dahil naghahanap siya ng kakampi para ma-deflect na nagsabi siya ng racist na bagay na nakakainsulto sa mga Filipinong hindi purong kayumanggi.
DeleteParusahan ang guilty, but dont generalize the team.
Deleteway to go mr. clavio!
ReplyDeletePFF only did what Cristy Ramos did.
ReplyDeleteAgree! They just remembered na pinoy sila when they did not make it to their respective national football teams.thus remembering that they have filipino ancestry of some degree and exploiting the philippine team.
ReplyDeletedon't tell me..most of you, hindi nangbastos ng kapwa!! you're all hypocrite..mali si Clavio..tapos!
ReplyDeleteHahaha! They claim na pag pure pinoy marunong rumespeto sa kababaihan and foreigners dont. Really? As if wla pang Pure Pinoy na naka-commit ng sexua harassment and rape.
DeleteKaya may page sa Facebook na 2011 Boycott GMA7 News, na may 30k+ na likers, kasi naman minsan Biased ung reporting nila! At etong mga Azkals na toh Yumabang na talaga, hello mag uwi muna kayo ng Tropeyo bago kayo magyabang,sample na lang na di porke boyfriend ka ni Angel Locsin feeling m ang taas taas m na! At yung ibang players sana nman matuto kayo ng tinatawag na respeto at paggalang sa babae! Pano pag ginawa yung issue na nagyari sa nanay, kapatid, pinsan o lola m?!! "Do unto others what you want others do unto you!"
ReplyDeletehahaha. Bilib ka dun teh, eh ang FB at Twitter Mafia ng Family Network ang may gawa nun eh. hahaha
DeleteHe voiced out what everyone else is thinking. Or most of us anyways. I too feel that the azkals should focus more on improving their game and stop being such airheads. And someone please tell Lobo to shut up. Because i don't like her hahaha!
ReplyDelete--chilli
hahaha! nagreact lang daw c lobo because of racism, wapakels daw xa sa harassment... aaawwwwwooohhhh!!!
DeleteHindi ko rin tinuturing na kapwa pinoy ang ibang half-half na azkals. Sabik sa publicity, bastos, laging talo, panalo lang sa pipichuging football teams! Di yan pinoy!
ReplyDeleteKung isa-summarize natin ang mga qualified sa description mong bastos, sabik sa publicity, laging talo, wala ng matitirang pinoy dahil lahat ng tao naging ganyan na at one point or another. All the while I thought ur being proud as Pinoy pero sa sinabi mo u just erased the whole PINOY race dahil wla ng qualified. Hahaha. Nice try!
DeleteOA naman ang reaction ng PFF. They are trying to deflect the issue. At most, PFF only needed to send out a simple statement of disappointment about Arnold Clavio's opinions. Did PFF spend as much time crafting and creating a statement that is equally as long addressing Ms. Ramos' complaints?
ReplyDeleteFinally, which show was Arnold expressing his opinions? Was it in a newscast or in a "news" show? If it's in a news show and not a newscast, Arnold can give his opinion. Parang si Anderson Cooper. Kapag nagbabalita siya, diretsong balita lang. Pero pag sa show niya na "Anderson Cooper 360" sa CNN pa rin, puro opinions niya iyon. That's just the norm now.
So true!!! Even Ted, Korina, Noli & Karen express their opinions on radio (which is also shown on tv).
DeleteUna, wala pa naman resolusyon yung case ni Cristy. Siguradong sigurado na ba kayo ni Arnold na guilty yung mga players? Nandun rin ba kayo sa loob ng locker room? Ang alam ko naniniwala tayo na innocent hanggang proven guilty ang mga acusado dito.
DeletePangalawa, porke't galit si Arnold, hindi yon sapat na rason para magpahayag siya ng ignorante at RACIST na opinion tungkol sa mga Filipinong hindi kayumanggi. Kahit opinionated si Anderson Cooper, NEVER siya naging racist. Pakibasa po ang Journalism Code of Ethics, at paki search na rin po ang kaibahan ng Race sa Nationality. Madali para sa isang taong katulad ni Arnold na siraan ang mga Azkals, pero sabihin kaya niya sa mukha ng mga Sy, Gokongwei, Araneta, Ayala, atbp na hindi sila Pinoy dahil hindi sila kayumanggi? Sabihin niya na rin sa mga bayaning OFW na nakatira sa ibang bansa na kung may halong ibang race yung mga anak nila, hindi na sila Pinoy.
Pangatlo, hindi pa po pwedeng mag-comment ang PFF sa complaint ni Cristy dahil on-going pa ang imbestigasyon. Hindi ba obvious yon? I'm sure na pag-natapos na ang inquiry, mahabang mahaba rin ang statement naibibigay ng PFF.
Kailangan ipaghiwalay ang issue nung case ni Cristy at ang issue ng pagka-prejudiced ni Arnold. Kahit ba sabihin nyo na yung una yung rason para dun sa pangalawa, hindi talaga yon sapat na justification, lalo na sa larangan ng public broadcast. Parang sinabi nyo na rin na ok lang na sinagasaan mo yung isang tao dahil galit ka na sinabunutan niya yung kapit-bahay mo.
Couldnt say it any better. Bravo!
DeleteMay punto sana si Clavio kung ang tinatalakay nya nung time na yun ay hindi ang harassment issue. Fact nmn tlg na not pure most of the Azkals but to use it as a proof of their capacity to commit sexual harassment is racist, a low blow and uncalled for. As if its a given na kapag pure pinoy ka di ka na pwede na makaka-commit ng sexual harassment. That's just plain b***s**t. Irrelevant nmn tlg ung race sa harassment case na un. And by raising it up is racism on part of Clavio.
DeleteI SUPPORT ARNOLD CLAVIO ON THIS. IT MAY THE WRONG VENUE TO SAY HIS OPINIONS, BUT WHAT HE SAID WAS EXACTLY 100 TRUE. IF, THEY ARE FILIPINO IN THEIR HEARTS AND MINDS, THEY WOULD HAVE TREATED MS. RAMOS WITH UTMOST RESPECT BECAUSE WE FILIPINOS ARE THE MOST RESPECTFUL PEOPLE. peace fp.love you taroush69
ReplyDeleteagree 100%!!!
Deletetama, may grain of truth ang mga sinabi ni Clavio. but he's not the RIGHT PERSON to say those things because he's a journalist. journalists should be free from subjectivity. he should know that. antagal na nya sa media. lalo na't hindi pa naman talaga napapatunayan na may harassment ngang naganap. wala pang verdict na guilty ang mga nasangkot. he should have stick to the issue at hand which is allegedly, "sexual harassment" and refrained from giving unnecessary side comments like: mayayabang etc...ang paraan ng pagkakasabi pa eh parang usapan lang ng mga tambay sa kanto. very unbecoming of a journalist. nagpadala sya sa inis nya sa nangyari. it's like ginatungan nya pa ang accusations against some Azkals members, parang pinatotohanan nya by way of saying things discriminatory against those involved further fueling the rage of the people. anong pinagkaiba nyan sa trial by publicity? hinusgahan mo na eh wala naman pa atang kasong sinampa but a formal complaint for disciplinary action purposes lang. but he already apologized for what he said so i guess that ends it.
DeleteWOW, what a claim! Filipinos as the most respectful people. Hate to burst your fantasy bubble pero tingnan mo na lang sa thread na to. Ilan ang messages na may value of respect. The mere fact na binastos ni Clavio ang foreign bloods or half breeds is another one. Those are contradictions to that claim. Pag diniscuss pa natin ang mga pure Pinoy na nakacommit ng sexual harassment and rape, ewan ko na lang baka himatayin ka. It nice that we uphold our Pinoy values and we're proud of it but to downgrade other race to raise ourselves is one way to DISRESPECT. Enough said!
DeleteIn my opinion kahit anong race ka pa meron talagang bastos
ReplyDeleteShort and concise! Thumbs up! I agree completely!
DeleteHindi porke tags ibang Bansa bastos na! Maraming pinoy na bastos. Sana magiingat tayo sa Sasabihin natin at wag tayo mag judge kaagad ng Tao. Innocent until proven guilty nga naman di BA :)
ReplyDeleteHindi ako nag-ja-judge sa kabastusan ng Pinoy at mga banyaga. lahat naman tayo may angking kabastusan.
DeleteDito sa issue na ito, labas ang kulay at lahi, binastos ng dalawang miyembro ng Azkals si Cristy Ramos.
Kung babae ka at sinabihan at pinakitaan ka ng ganun, hindi ka ba mababastus? Kung lalake at may anak kang babae o kapatid na babae na nasa parehong sitwasyon, hindi ka ba ma-o-offend?
I am not judging them based on their color, culture or upbringing. I am offended by what they did and how they continue to believe that they did nothing wrong.
Exactly, di nga yun race and nationality ang issue eh; so bakit yun ang tinitira ni Mr. Clavio? He should've stick to the issue and did go beyond it by attacking them on what color of their skins are.
DeleteNaku, wag ilihis ang issue. Go lang Arnold Clavio! Enough of sexual harrasment by these half-Pinoys already. Mga walang galang!
ReplyDeleteHindi po yung sexual harassment ang issue dito. Ang issue ay yung pagkasabi ni Arnold Clavio ng mga racist remarks laban sa mga Filipinong hindi purong kayumanggi. Sa pagsabi niya na hindi naman talaga Filipino ang mga Azkals na may isa lang na magulang na Filipino, parang binale wala niya ang importansya ng mga magulang nilang Pinoy, at ininsulto na rin niya ang lahat ng mga lahing Fil-Chinese, Fil-Spanish, Fil-American, atbp. na kababayan natin.
DeleteDahil Half-Pinoy bastos kaagad. Eh manood lang ako nang balita sa TV maraming na-re rape dyan sa Metro Manila, hindi naman half-Pinoy mga yun ah. Purong pangung Pinoy talaga. Mag ingat po sa sinasabi natin. Huwag tayo mag generalize.
ReplyDeleteAt isa pa, sinu sa atin makapagsasabi na purong Pinoy sya, aber? Sa Philippine history alam natin na mga native tribes lang makakapag-claim niyan. Halos lahat sa atin may halo nang dugo nang Chinese, American, Japanes, Spanish at kung anu-ano pa. AY, Ibig sabihin lahat pala na Filipino bastos...Yan ang conclusion kung ganyan ang takbo nang argumento natin.
Hindi ako fan nang football kasi for me, yan ang pinaka boring na game. Di rin ako fan ni Arnold. Ang akin lang, i-judge natin ang pagkakamali nang tao and not his/her background.
"HINDI KA KULTURA, HINDI TOTOONG PILIPINO NAG PAPANGGAP NA KAYUMANGGI"pero pag nag uwe na ng parangal nag cclaim tayo na pinoy sila at yan ang husay ng mga pilipino...bakit ganon pag may nagawang panget hndi na ka kultura pero pag may nauwe ng medalya sa bansa kung akuin natin sila wagas lang.....
ReplyDeletepag ba hindi lumaki sa pinas kahit may dugong pinoy bastos na????
eh bakit yung mga purong dugong pinoy dito na lumaki at tumanda bastos din.......
i adore arn arn para sa pag tatanggol nya sa sexual harrasment pero yung term na ginamit nya about sa ugali ng mga half pinoy eh parang may mali ata dun, sana naicip nya muna na azkals lang ba ang fil-am sa mundo????????
Tama! May I just ask sa GMA 7 ba walang mga half pinoy na Artist? The last time I checked sa kanila mga mraming brapanese artists, and those are not even half breed Pinoys. Stop being hypocrites! Para naman napaka perfect ng Filipino Values natin when it comes to respecting Filipinas.
DeleteI salute you Arnold !
ReplyDeleteThe case of Ms. Ramos vs. the Azkals members are already being investigated at the proper forum. Puede naman bumatikos si Clavio pero using propriety naman kasi he's a well-know and respected journalist. Pumepeg kasi siya kay Tulfo eh di naman bagay sa itsura niya, ayan napala niya.
ReplyDeletePang cover lng ito sa sexual harassment case nila. Booooo PFF. I support Arnold Clavio!!! Imagine, kung Isa k s GF ng askals anu n lng ang pinaguusapan nila about you s locker room? I can't imagine siguro kung paano sila mgboys talk!
ReplyDeleteAlam na nating may tinge of truth sa mga binitiwang salita ni Arnold Clavio, pero sana inisip din nya muna kung hindi ba makaka offend yung mga sinabi nya. Kahit hindi dito lumaki ang majority ng Azkals, the fact that they either have a Filipino mom or dad qualifies them to be Filipino. Minsan kasi ang mga journalists natin, they take full liberty of our freedom of speech, kaya they abuse it ng ganun ganun na lang. Pero eto lang tanong ko: NASUSUSTENTUHAN KAYA NI ARNOLD CLAVIO YUNG ANAK NYA KAY SARAH BALAGABAN? KUNG MAKAPAGSALITA NAMAN TONG ARNOLD CLAVIO NA 'TO KALA NYA ANG LINIS NYA!
ReplyDeleteSabi sa letter nkapending na po ang kaso ng 2 azkals. May game pa sila at nsa ibang bansa pa. Anong action ang pwedeng gawin agad agad? Pwede po kayang hugutin ung dalawa at ipalit si clavio at arn arn?Hindi po dahil 100% pinoy ka e mabuting tao na? Wla po sa nationality ang usapan if pagkatao na po ng tao ay mayabang at manyak ganun na sya kht san ilagay. Sa ngayon po imbes na husgahan ang azkals e supportahan muna natin sila bilang representative ng Pilipinas hanggang matapos ang laban. Pag balik nila tska nila haharapin ang kaso nila at maparusahan kung totoong may sala. Hndi porket sinusuportahan ang team e kinukunsinte ang actions ng player outside ng field. Ang pagcheer skanila e pagcheer pra sa Pilipinas. Makakabuti to pra sumikat ang soccer dito at madami magkainteres sa sports na to, at madaming players na makuha na gusto ng ilan w/c is purong Pinoy. Di tulad sa ibang sa ibang bansa, united ang mga tao pag may mga national championship na kasali ang bansa nila. At Kung totoong pong concerned ang nakararami sa pambabastos sa mga Pilipina at di lang mga haters, ano po ang ngyari sa ilang celebries o personalities na na naaccuse ng rape at sexual harassment noon? Sikat na sikat pa din sila...
ReplyDeleteforever pending yang case na yan... :D
Delete"Sisikapin kong maging isang tunay na Pilipino sa isip, sa salita at sa gawa"
ReplyDeletemas pinoy pa nga para saken si Alex Compton compared sa lahat ng Fil-foreigners ng PBA at UFL combined..
buti nga sa yo ARNOLD C!!! lately e napaka YABANG mo nga!
ReplyDeleteWala naman aq nakitang masama sa sinabi ni arnold clavio. Totoomnmn saksakan ng yabang ang mga azkals na yan! A i agree dun sa comment nmkaya yang mga yan nsa pinas kc they cant even qualify dun s country n pinanggalingan nila! Bigla biglang nagiging pinoy?neknek! Havey nmn c java man hahaha
ReplyDeleteOk, kung walang mali dun, ikaw magsabi sa mga naghihirap na OFW na kung magka-anak sila sa ibang bansa, huwag na silang umasa na itituring Filipino yung mga anak nila.
DeleteWELL FANS WILL ALWAYS BE FANS!
ReplyDeleteALL IN ALL BASTOS NAMAN TALAGA AN ASKALS!!!
Tarush!
DeleteSa pangunguna ng laos na tagapunas ng pawis.
Deletestaka bakit sexual harrassment ang reklamo ni cristina ramos? mali ata un!!! ang definition ng sexual harassment ay dapat may "authority, influence or moral ascendancy over another ". may moral ascendancy ba ang mga player sa kanya? WALA!
ReplyDeletedapat ang reklamo nya acts of lasciviousness!!! NKKLK!!!! reklamo reklamo pa mali mali pa!!! TSEEE!!!! kairita!
Kahit anu pa ginawa ng azkals, ang topic dito, si clavio. Jusko akala ko ba walang kinikilingan? Bakit wala pang imbestigasyon eh parang guilty na agad ang azkals? Kung bastos sila, fine! Hayaang imbestigahan yung case.
ReplyDeletePero ibang kaso yung ginawa ng puppet na yan. Yun ang topic dito. Ibang kaso na kung may kagaguhan ang azkals.
This is
azkals vs clavio
not
azkals vs ramos and clavio.
I think they lodged a complaint because they are afraid they might be disqualified in this tournament when the players' nationality are being put into question by the people who are supposed to represent.
ReplyDeleteLadies should not enter the locker rooms even if they are officials, the atmosphere is different there and they could always ask someone to do the checking for them. However, this is the 2nd incident wherein the Azkals were involved in the maltreatment of women... so may be there is something wrong with some of the players. I hope they resolve this case for everyone's satisfaction.
With regards to Mr. Clavio's statement, he could mask it as his editorial opinion but it doesn't erase the fact that he may be believing his own press and may have developed a bloated ego. This would be proven otherwise if he does acknowledge that he may have made an error of judgement.
haller! anong kinalaman ng sexual harassment s kulay ng tao at pagkaPILIPINO,.. khit anong lahi may bastos! hindi lng azkals nasagasaan nya, kundi pti ung may fil-foreign blood s buong mundo,. hindi nila ksalanan qng ipinanganak clang mag-kaiba ang lahi ng mga magulang nila! kaya tama lng ang ginawa ng PFF!
ReplyDeleteAzkals fan much? Ang sinabi ni clavio is related sa ginawa ng Azkals, which is sexual harassment and their upbringing. He's not referring to whether bastos na lahat ng mga foreigners or whatev. Libre gamitin ang common sense.
DeleteThe truth hurts and totoo lang naman ang sinabi ni Arnold Clavio. Aminin man ng Azkals o hindi, binastos nila si Cristy Ramos. Sana nag-apologize instead na mag-justify. Hindi apology kung may kasamang justifications, kung sorry, sorry. Mas lalambot pa ang puso ko sa kanila kung nag-sorry ng tama at sabihing they are willing to suffer the consequences of offending the other party. Kse, sexual harrasment is sexual harassment. Kapag na-offend mo ang tao esp during the line of duty, pwede na syang magreklamo.
ReplyDeleteTama din naman ang sinabi ni Clavio, hindi sila lumaki dito. Iba ang upbringing, iba ang culture, iba ang kinasanayang environment. Mas liberal sa kanila. At dahil dito, mas liberal sila sa lahat. Kaya sa Azkals, wala yun kse iba nga ang kinalakihan nila. So...ano ang mali dun sa sinabi ni Clavio?
Ang tanong ko lang eh, sumulat din ba ng ganyang pagkahaba-habang letter of complaint ang PFF sa management ng Azkals???? Kung nabastos kayo sa mga sinabi ni Clavio na totoo naman to begin with, dapat MAS nabastos kayo sa nangyari dun sa isang opisyal din ng koponan.
Let us stop putting these men on pedestals. Kaya lumalaki ang mga ulo eh. Marami pa silang dapat patunayan. Mas maraming atleta dyan na di hamak na mas magaling at mas nahihirapan "to give glory to the flag and country".
Bravo, Arnold Clavio!!! Wag kang papipigil sa pagsabi ng totoo. The truth hurth, but we need to hear it.
I salute what Arnold Clavio did. Bastos ang mga Azkals na yan. Layas!
ReplyDeleteSo this is where all the haters come to vent. Sige, magpakasawa kayo. I hope your hatred makes you feel fulfilled, and I hope you can sleep at night knowing that the champion you have chosen is a hate-mongering racist bigot who doesn't know the meaning of "innocent until proven guilty" or "Filipino" for that matter. Just don't go sharing your opinion with your bosses, chances are the people who own the companies you work for aren't kayumanggi enough to be considered Filipino by your idol.
ReplyDeleteDid you guys forget that Clavio is a radio commentator and that is a part of his job-to express his views and opinions? I know that channel 7 is a lousy channel to watch with all the exagerated way they deliver the news (Mike Enriquez is sobrang O.A.),but that's the job as a commentator.So please educate yourselves with that and avoid shooting the messenger.As for the AZKALS, you are rejects from the countries where you came from , suddenly realizing you have filipino blood in you, or maybe say you love the philippines , so you can come and be famous here without any decent effort and sexually harrass our women.We Filipino suckers patronize these mestizos because of our colonial mentality but we are missing out on imposing respect for our culture,our women,our values and our country.look at your comments here about how you adulate the Azkals.Someday if a sister or a girlfriend gets molested, then maybe that's when you realize that you should have taken a stand when you could.STUPID RACE this has become.Sayang.
ReplyDeleteRead the Journalism Code of Ethics. Opinions are fine, but racism is not acceptable in any form.
DeleteLike! :)
Deleteto that, wag silang tantanan! hehehe mabuhay ka, kaibigan! point well-written!
DeleteThe truth hurts! It's ashamed that angel locsin sided on the issue of racism over women rights. Che!
ReplyDeleteto think, she's with Gabriela, ayt? parang honorary member something like that..
Deletesuper kerek!
Deleteang yaman lang ni CLAVIO, against sexual harrasment daw, respeto sa kababaihan ang peg pero wag ka. according to WIKI which they already updated, he took advantage of SARAH BALABAGAN
ReplyDelete"He has another child with Sarah Balabagan."
Such a gentleman! we hear you Crab-io!
Actually, hindi siya ang dapat makigitna sa issues ng babae. Muntik ko na nakalimutan yung nangyari kay Sarah. Problema kay Arnold mahilig siyang makieksena. I bet ang saya saya niya ngayon kasi siya ang paboritong topic ng Pilipinas.
DeleteI agree with Arn Arn's point of view although he sounded too colloquial like a chismoso sa kanto when said those, hehehe. Anyway, its the PFF's right to lodge a complaint and Arn Arn has the right to respond. Arn Arn can hold his own in this, I hope.
ReplyDeleteOA nila, porke ba AZKALS di na pwedeng batikusin? Pinanood ko yung video honestly kala ko minura mura sila at yung race nila kaso WAAAAAAH...Pero yeah, understandable naman kasi KAILANGAN NILA NG DIVERSION dahil dun sa issue ni Cristy. I admit for a newscaster sana mas naging EXTRA SENSITIVE si arn pero honestly? He doesn't deserve this! Yang mga AZKALS na yan masyadong nagpapaka-BABY. HOY AZwholes, WAKE UP! yan ang mahirap sa inyo masyadong SENSITIVE! Kaya nyong BUMASTOS ng babae pero simpleng batikos di nyo ma-take! CHEE!!
ReplyDeletethey're just using this issue to gain sympathy from the public. ginagamit lang nila si arnold clavio. sexual harassment is very serious, huwag sana magpalinlang ang nakakarami at kampihan pa ang mga nagkasala sa azkals. arnold clavio's opinions are true...maybe hurting but TRUE.
ReplyDeleteAmen! :) Nakuha mo!
DeleteThey should change their name.. AZZYAKS.. Azzholes+manyaks..
ReplyDeletebakeeeeeeeetttttttt???......hindi ba entitled sa opinion nya c arnold?...at entitled ang azkals mang-harass???....tumigil!
ReplyDeletewinner!!!
DeleteEntitled ng opinion si Arnold...at entitled din magka-opinion ang mga tao na racist siya.
DeleteAs for harassment charges, ever heard of "innocent before proven guilty"? Naman.
Agree!
Deletewalang kinikilingan pala ah! eto ka ngayon IGAN!! hahahaha...
ReplyDeletebalat sibuyas
ReplyDeletedon't worry, the feeling is mutual. She doesn't like you too! I guess you don't know the meaning of "freedom of speech" do you? If you want her to shut up, then you should too
ReplyDeletekanya-kanyang paraan lang naman yan eh. Ms. Ramos resulted to trial by publicity. inuna magpainterview, sa twitter pa mostly nalaman ng iba. Ngayon kung nakuha ng Azkals ang sympathy ng mga tao, malas lang ni Ms. Ramos kasi ang tange naman kasi ng adovacate niya na si Arn-arn, ng magcomment siya ng ganun. if may alam lang sana siya kahit kaunti sa football, di dapat sana alam niya na solid ang football community about racism. bawal na bawal yan. So ngayon, na trial by twitter si Arn-arn, na deflect yung issue. swerte ng azkals, malas ni ms. ramos.
ReplyDeleteHypocrisy naman. Pag merong 1/8th na dugong Pinoy sa Hollywood, no matter how trashy (Vanessa Minillo, anyone?), proud na proud ang mga Pinoy! Pero itong mga Azkals, representing us globally at nakatira dito, making an effort to know Pinoy culture, "di naman talaga Pinoy"? WHATEVER!
ReplyDeleteang daming nagga2lingan sa football dito akala mo may mga alam eh?check nyo nga karamihan sa mga national team ng ibang bansa puro half half din mga ingrata kau!ano un gusto nyo lang puro pinoy?ano ba nangyari sa basketball team natin na kahit puro pinoy eh wala namang nangya2ri sa mga national games?nsa atin pa ang 1st ever professional league sa asia pero wla prin tau sa number 1 sa asya mga nyetang haters sa football!pano naman kaming mhi2lig sa futbol?gs2 rn nman umangat 2lad ng gngwa ng azkals kau b my gngwa wla nman
ReplyDeleteokay lang if you're an avid fan of football or ng azkals or ng mga manlalarong may foreign blood. ok lang din na sabihin mong mas may nangyayari sa team pag may mga mestizo.. pero wag mo naman sabihing walang nangyayari sa mga teams pag purong pinoy lang ang players. they are training hard too. probably even harder than the azkals. sa basketball, mas lesser talaga ang possibility of reigning kasi nga mabababa talaga ang mga purong pinoy. it so happened na mas popular lang talaga ang basketball kaysa sa football dito sa pilipinas. Did you know that pure filipinos have greater chance to excel sa football with the right training? kasi hindi necessary ang height sa larong ito. but as i said, hindi lang talaga popular ang football sa atin kaya wala masyadong nagkaka-interest nag mag-train and probably kasi wala rin masyadong kaalaman ang nagte-train sa mga kaunting may interest. and idagdag mo pa dyan ang insufficient support ng government sa larong ito.
DeleteDear 7:10 PM
DeleteYun pa nga lang hindi mo pagbilang sa mga purong Pinoy sa isang team, basketball man yan o football, ay isang uri ng diskriminasyon. ano sa tingin mo?
i agree. di kasi sikat football dito kaya wala masyadong mga bata naglalaro noon. pero with the kasikatan ng azkals ngayon with their underdog story, a lot of kids are now taking interest in the sport. dati mga football fields iilan lang eh. ngayon dumadami na sila at marami rami na ring batang naglalaro than before. in time magiging pure blooded pinoy rin mga players natin sa football if this keeps up. in time makakahanap ng bagong talents from this pool of kids na interested sa laro. with proper training and support from the government, we won't feel the need to borrow players from other courties. ngayon kasi dahil nga di sikat ang sport til now, we have to borrow players from european clubs kasi sa kanilang mga bansang pinaglakihan, numero uno ang football dun. nahasa na sila since bata. kaya sa mga football haters, patience lang. we will have our own grass root talents eventually. for now let's just support our team. it's our national team for crying out loud. they're carrying our flag.
Deletesandali, di ba sa panahong nagdadalamhati dati si Sarah Balabagan, sinamantala ni Igan. Inanakan si Sarah! ano ba naman yan compared sa 'cupB' comment! itanong nyo ke tolpu!
ReplyDeletetsaka hindi nga daw pwedeng sexual harrassment ang kaso kasi superior ang position ni cristy over the azkal players. dapat humingi ng sexual favor yung superior dun sa subordinate nya. hindi pasok eh. pero dapat i-sanction sa kabastusan at kawalang respeto at mag-public apology.
sabihin na naten may mali ang ibang miyembro ng Azkals...pero mali din naman ang ginawa ni Arnold Clavio, nagoopinion ng gnun....hndi masama maglabas ng opinion, pero as journalist, kailanagn maging maingat sila sa sabihin nila lalo n may tag-line ang istsyon nila ng WALANG KINIKILINGAN, WALANG PINOPROTEKTAHAN---- at ung isa pa na WALANG HALONG OPINYON.....oo freedom of expression pero mnsan dpat din naten isipin ang ethics ng field of work naten......the sexual harrasment case is under investigation pa rin..wala pang final na desisyon kung ginawa ba un ng 2 azkals or sadya lng naging sensitibo si cristina ramos...kaya mahirap magsalita or magbitaw ng opinyon na halatang may pinapanigan ka na...ang isang kaso ay hndi nagtatapos sa isang panig ng storya lng, meron din yang "another side of the story".......
ReplyDeleteGAMITAN - yan ang tingin ko sa lahat ng issues
ReplyDelete1. C. Ramos - person of authority cya so dapat on that time ay nagwala na cya sa locker room pero ginawa ay pinalaki ang issue paramapag-usapan
2. GMA via Igan - week ago na ang reklamo ni Ramos bakit ngayon lng nagcomment sa issue kung kelan naglalaro ang azkals kasi nasa limelight sila
3. PFF - sumasakay sa issue na pinagkakaguluhan natin ngayon
kc yung mga cases against askals n sexual harassments he said-she said....eto kcng kay mr. clavio may recorded evidence. i guess if kcng gwapo at kcng tikas din ng mga askals c mr clavio ganun din sya kaangas. kasalanan din nung mga babae na pumapatol s knila.kung d mo nmn gusto d k nmn nila mapipilit d ba?as for ms ramos, dpt dun p lng nagsalita n sya na umayos sila ng gawa nila.she has the authority to do that nmn.she could've reprimanded them right there and then and called the attention of the team captain.
ReplyDeleteWe are all entitled to have our own opinion, kaya nga may freedom of speech e. Mag martial law nalang ulit kung bawal magsabi ng opinion diba? I agree with him na nagpapanggap lang silang kayumanggi - this doesn't mean na pag Filipino kailangan kayumanggi, it's just a metaphor. Di nga sila makapagtagalog ng diretso pano mo tatawaging Filipino yun, diba ang wika hindi mahihiwalay sa kultura? They're comparing those players to PNoy e si PNoy only spent about 1/8 of his life sa ibang bansa e sila 3/4 ng buhay nila wala sila dito how would that help them incorporate the values and culture of a true Filipino in them? At least be man enough and admit your mistakes and apologize. Being in another country trying to win for the Philippines is not an enough excuse to not even try to reach out and make an effort to SINCERELY apologize. The incident with Ms. Ramos proved that Azkals are ASKALS and would never be ASPIN.
ReplyDeleteingat sa mga binibitawang salita reporter ka pa namn baka inggit dahil guwapo ang mga azkal at di pa namn niya naririnig ang side ng aszkals hay kausapin mo na lang ang puppet mo
ReplyDeletei understand arnold why he said those things, he has high regard for filipino women and treats them with respect. cguro may insecurity lang nga na dala ang mga comments nya kaya it was blown out of proportion. pero i still understand his point that such 'joke' should not be mentioned with a woman amidst men kahit na hindi sya ang puntirya nito.
ReplyDeletehe has high regard for filipino women? what about sarah balabagan? pinay rin. after buntisin, iniwan sa ere. high regard my ass!
Deleteif you listen closesly sa mga sinabi nya on air di na tungkol sa sexual harassment eh. patungkol na sa race eh. wala naman sa race ang paggawa ng krimen. kahit pinoy nakakagawa ng sexual harassment. so bakit pinasok ang race issue? ano konek nun? palusot lang yun na he's just anti-sexual harassment. anyone who buys his explanations are clearly biased. please pakilawakin ang isip.
i don't agree rin sa ginawa ng azkals kay christy pero race has nothing to do with the issue. tsaka di lang azkals pinatama ni clavio sa mga sinabi nya. whether he intended it or not, pati mga half filipinos all over the world eh naalienate nya.
put yourself in the shoes of other half-filipinos. yung tatay mo kungwari foreigner pero nanay mo pinay. tapos sabihan ka ng isang pinoy ng "di ka pilipino. nagpapanggap ka lang." ooh ouch...
let go of your biases and see how clavio's remarks are really racist...
Clearly, some commenters here know nothing about football.
ReplyDeleteOne, you CANNOT play for your National Team if you don't have an ounce of your country's blood in you. The players you are talking about are as Filipino as you can get. Ang pagkakaiba lang, they were raised by a Filipino parent/s abroad.
Two, yung mga nagsasabi puro papogi lang ang mga players natin: OUR PLAYERS WERE HERE ALREADY EVEN BEFORE FOOTBALL WAS EVEN POPULAR IN THE COUNTRY. They have been fighting FOR THE FLAG for YEARS already, with or without support from fans. In fact, THEY GET CLOSE TO NOTHING for playing for the country, only, in the words of some of our players, the pride of playing for their NANAY's COUNTRY. The expenses they even cover themselves, airfare and all.
They did not grab the opportunity away from our home-based players. Fact is, we do not even have a decent football program to train home-based players well, that's why we had to resort to borrowing foreign-based FILIPINO players from their respective clubs in far-away countries. Isa pa, kung manonood kayo ng live sa Rizal Memorial Football Stadium, mapapansin ninyo na mas malakas ang sigaw ng mga tao para sa mga homegrown talent tulad nina Chieffy Caligdong at Ian Araneta, kumpara sa mga sinasabi ninyong foreign-based players. So anong pag-agaw ng suporta roon?
Three, the real issue here is Mr. Clavio's racial slur, not the sexual harassment issue. The sexual harassment issue is out of the question in this discussion. I am not siding with the Azkals here, as I believe, as a woman, if the players are PROVEN GUILTY, they must be punished, given that it is in the proper forum (a COURT). Clavio, as a JOURNALIST, should have known better than to let his emotions get in the way of a newscast. He is ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION, but he should have witheld his opinion until later, alone with his peers, friends or whomever, as the show, being a newscast, should be neutral in nature.
Clavio's comment did not only touch the nerve of football fans, but also those whose parents are OFWs, or are OFWs themselves. Having fairer skin, being born to a foreigner father/mother, being raised in another country, if you follow Clavio's logic, makes you an alien in your own country. Ano ang tama doon? Pati mismong Constitution, kinalaban niya ang definition.
Clavio should man up, offer a sincere apology, and this can all be forgotten. As for the sexual harassment case, let it have its day in court. If Moy and Guirado are proven guilty, then I'm all for sanctioning them.
The issue here is RACISM. I hope everyone, even those against the Azkals, unite to battle a discriminatory remark that has hurt a lot of people. Let us not tolerate such kind of behavior from a respected journalist like Arnold Clavio, who so easily demands an apology from other people yet cannot give one on his own. No to racism.
~Not a fangirl.
well said!
DeleteWell said, kudos!
Deleteweh? not a fan girl? ah baka kasi di ka babae pero fan ka ng azkals. the sexual harassment issue isn't out of the picture here because arnold would not comment or give his opinion if there was no sexual harassment issue. you really are one heck of a fan blinded by the gorgeous faces of your idols.
Deleteyung tungkol sa Azkal vs Cristy... commisioner ba kayo or azkal player para masabi nyo kung sino ang nagsasabi ng totoo o kung sino ang may mali sa nangyari? don't get me wrong. I'm neither a fan nor hater of Azkals and/or Cristy Ramos. I'm just saying, you don't know the truth, you don't have the facts, you weren't even there when it happened; therefore, you don't have the right to judge anyone of them, be it Azkal or Cristy.
ReplyDeleteyung tungkol kay Clavio... again... I'm neither a fan nor hater of clavio and/or gma7. pero sa narinig ko, at napanood ko, racist at malicious yung mga sinabi ni clavio. he pertained the whole Azkal team as "not Pinoy" and that he distinguished himself from the Azkals as "not Pinoy" (by pointing) at (his) heart and mind.
ay nako, ewan ko na lang, ha. pero pag hindi nyo maintindihan na yung ginawa ni Clavio ay napaka-irresponsable, ang masasabi ko lang ay panatiko kayo ni clavio and/or gma7. o kaya naman ay bulag kayo sa katotohanan. yes, he is entitled to have his own opinion. but it is not his place as a news and public affairs personality to make unnecessary remarks. he should have just stick to the issue (azkals vs cristy) at walang kinilingan.
thanks! finally a sensible comment! kanina pko nagbabasa ng comments and lalo lang bumigat puso ko sa mga nabasa ko. it's so sad that people are willing to back up clavio despite his below the belt remarks dahil lang malaki galit nila sa azkals.
Deletei'm not a fan of azkals but i do love and play the sport. it's sad that people think na kaya lang sikat ang football ngayon dahil gwapo mga players. that's so not true. us fans of the sport have been around for a long time but it is only now that nakikita kami kasi finally we have a national team to cheer for when dati we use to watch lang sa bars rooting for european teams sa uefa or san pa. ngayon lang rin nagiging visible mga batang naglalaro ng football dahil na rin sa media mileage sa biglang interes sa football pero matagal na rin may mga naglalaro ng sport na yan sa bansa natin di lang halata. nakatulong pa na dumadami mga fields na pwede paglaruan dahil sa media mileage na dala ng azkals.
looks have nothing to do with love for the game. i'm a girl and naoffend ako sa sinabi nina clavio that porke gwapo we are willing to throw ourselves sa kanila. not so. i just happen to love the game.
while i don't like what lex said (i also believe na di sadya ni angel na nakashorts lang nung lumapit kay christy), di pa nahahatulan ang kaso. til then, let's stick to the issue. let's not bring in the issue of breed-breed or half-half. race has nothing to do with any crime. kahit pinoy nagsesexual harassment. ano tawag kay clavio na nagtake advantage kay sarah balabagan tapos after anakan eh iniwan? so if susundan ko logic ni clavio, sasabihin ko rin dko sya kakultara dahil sa ginawa nya?
Pwde naman kasi syang bumatikos eh kaso ngalang parang below the belt naman ung ibang sinabi nya, kung my issue man ng sexual harrasment ung ibang players ng azkals wag naman po sanang lahatin po, kasi marami din po sigurong ibang players na matitino rin, sana naman before sya mg batikos isipin nya muna kung ano yung mga pinagsasabi nya, at sa iba naman na ng comment po sana palawakin natin ung pagiisip at pg intindi natin sa issue, ang bilis lng natin mg comment dahil ng papadala po tayo sa mga emosyon natin.
ReplyDeletesana nagbabasa si arnold and arn-arn ng fashion pulis para may sense siya ng sentiments ng madlang elitista : )
ReplyDeletehay naku palitan na ang azkals to Azuls...mga asong ulol!
ReplyDeleteI find it ironic that Arnold Clavio gets all hung up on Azkal controversy as if he’s the one that got all diddled on them mantitz. If you go back a decade, he fathered a child from Sarah Balabagan who happened to be a rape survivor. He left her and didn’t even bothered giving child support. He even denied that the child was his. Which is bad, making fun about bra size or take advantage of a vulnerable girl and left her with a child?
ReplyDeleteonga napansin ko rin yun sa tono nya masyado syang affected sa isyu. may pangaral pa sya about respecting women eh sya mismo may baho rin. the irony!
DeleteTama! Pa sakin tama lang ang sinabi ni Arnold. Nagkataon lang na TV personality sya kaya nagsipagreact ang mga linis-linisan. MArami namang tao na yun din ang nasa isip, mahirap nga lang magvoice-out dahil baka kuyugin ng mga pantards ng Azkal sa pangunguna ni NGIWI
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I didn't see any racist remark in Arn-arn's comments. It would have been racist if he shunned out all Fil-halfs but in his case, he pointed out specifically to some members of Azkals only. And admit it or not, the truth hurts. The issue would never be brought up, in the first place, IF these Azkals have acted and behaved properly, the way Filipinos would, especially towards women. The PFF is just making a big mountain out of a molehill. Coverup issue anyone?
ReplyDeleteGahd! Focus on improving Philippine's Football first ... 100 years eh? san banda?
bakit cla Jessica Sanchez at Thia Megia ng american idol mukha talagang pinoy na pinoy unang tingin ko pa lang ba't yung Azkals mga half-pinoy pala d ko akalain nung una ko cla nkita sa tv... half-pinoy cla..ba't ganon?
ReplyDeleteteh balik ka gradeschool ah para maaral mo uli yung tungkol sa heredity
Deletesabe ng tatay ko may kaibigan cla babae galing america ata yun umuwi ng pinas. nkasaky cla sa van pupuntang province. ang sabeh, hinto mo muna jan sa tabi iihi lang ako..umihi sya sa damuhan malapit sa kalsada. nkatingin nga cla tatay non sa babae na umiihi.pgbalik sa van,tnanong ng tatay ko ung babae na "hindi ka ba nahihiya?" sgot ng girl "hnde". .sbe ng tatay ko smen, natural na cguro yun sa mga tao from other countries.gnon ang kultura nla. nung cnabe ni tatay yun, naalala ko yung news na c Justin Bieber at Selena Gomez e naghahalikan sa beach.taz yung mga show sa America na napapanood sa ch.9 like Jerry Springer Show na mey nagpapakita ng b**bs, The Bachelor/Bachelorette na mei mga halikan khit d pa cla mg-bf/gf or mg-asawa.
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