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From 2006 to 2007, I consigned several designer items with this certain make-up artist who was trained in abroad to sell at his store in Rockwell. Initially, he would pay for the goods sold but when his store closed down in 2008, I stopped receiving checks from him. I tried to get back the unsold goods but he was nowhere to be found.
I remember bumping into his business partner at the mall several times. His business partner by the way is a fashion designer who is one of the officers of a group for designers. One time, when this designer was hanging out with some friends, he had an alarmed look on his face when he saw me. He hurriedly stood up, walked away from the group and told me in one corner that is aware of the situation. He promised me that he will get in touch with me once he sort things out with the make-up artist but since then, I never heard from him again. The estimated value of the goods I consigned with them is around 500,000 PhP.
I have never changed my mobile number or my email address. I do not have a Facebook account but one time I asked a friend who has one to send this designer a message reminding him about their obligation. As expected, my friend did not receive any reply. I have tried to text and call the make-up artist many times but he keeps changing his number.
At this point, I do not really care anymore about getting paid or getting the goods back. I am just so enraged at the audacity of these people to publicize their "posh lifestyles" and "European education" in the magazines when in fact they could not even pay for their debts. I guess dishonesty is truly the new black.
Thanks very much for posting my story. More power to you!
I have never changed my mobile number or my email address. I do not have a Facebook account but one time I asked a friend who has one to send this designer a message reminding him about their obligation. As expected, my friend did not receive any reply. I have tried to text and call the make-up artist many times but he keeps changing his number.
At this point, I do not really care anymore about getting paid or getting the goods back. I am just so enraged at the audacity of these people to publicize their "posh lifestyles" and "European education" in the magazines when in fact they could not even pay for their debts. I guess dishonesty is truly the new black.
Thanks very much for posting my story. More power to you!
Yours truly,
DA
Ang bilis ko na naman mahulaan! Haha! You know me Micslym!
ReplyDeleteMga ka buddies ko yan sa gym at di ko alam na may ganito pala silangstory! Uy mabait yang dalawa na yan ha. Siguro mahirap lang talaga pag pera na usapan
Yung jowa na designer ay Gumawa ng isang eco bag sa ayala, yung isa Max-galing mag make up! Oh yun na!
Rememeber mo to sa tweet ko sau:
^_^
sino kaya ito? ako kaya ang first?
ReplyDeletekafps: eh ano naman kung ikaw ang first?!?!!
Ewwww social climbers!!!
ReplyDeleteaBa,ang galing ng Clues! Let's Clap our hands for FP!
ReplyDeletei like my bobbie brown makeup and LV bags together!
ReplyDeleteNako ha! ang sosyal pa ng name ng isa jan. every time i hear it, ang dating sa kin philippe charriol! tapos ganyan?!?!?! hay, thats why kahit im just an ordinary filipino, i'd rather be me than try so hard to get into that "sosyal" circle & abe like those social climbers who are so pretentious and have no respect for other people's feelings!
ReplyDeleteParang they are both namamayagpag pa rin.
ReplyDeleteOne of our former clients, a very well-known fashionable couple in the retail business, paid the balance of our contract with GCs from their shop. While this is not uncommon practice, what was upsetting about this was that the couple paid the balance of a couple of hundred thousand pesos in GCs! Rather than not be able to collect, we had no choice but to accept the GCs. And if this wasn't bad enough, the GC had so many stipulations that our choices were so limited. Sale items we picked had to be reverted to their original price!
ReplyDeleteJust like the letter sender, I am also enraged at the pretentiousness of these people, flaunting their designer clothes (best-dressed, my foot!) and homes, sending their children abroad to study, when they cannot even settle their financial obligations "properly". What ever happened to good old values?
Make up Artist - B
ReplyDeleteDesigner - L
Yun na !!!!
good grief! Unbelievable. It doesn't matter that this happened eons ago or that B is a kind and generous person. A debt is still a debt.
ReplyDeleteHaha, ang galing ng clues!
ReplyDeleteto anon 6:56AM: I think this is also the couple mentioned in kitty go's book When Chic Hits the Fan. Kaya tuloy ang dami nang luging business ng couple na yan. Ang nanlalamang ng kapwa, hahanapin ng karma.
ReplyDeleteSi L ba yung official sa isang designer's guild para sa mga bata? My my, so young, and yet so corrupted already. At ang shop ba ay yung parang kuwarto ng babae ang pangalan sa rockwell?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous Oct. 12, 2011 1:17AM "Uy mabait yang dalawa na yan ha." Aanhin mo ang mabait, kung estafador, mang-gagancho, racketeer, swindler, con-artist naman? Hmmm... all of a sudden hindi na sosyal ang words to describe the two of them right? Magbayad na kayo! Di man lang kayo nahiya sa muk-ap at mga damit ninyo!
ReplyDeletei just googled the name of the shop. apparently hindi cya named after a girl, it's named after the poodle of one of the two in-"debted" pair. and yun nasa logo ay poodle din.
ReplyDeletedi ba ang pag yo yoga ay nakaka relax ng mind and cleanse ng soul - eh bakit balasubas pa din ang pag uugali ng 2 ito ( ang dami talagang mga young designers ek-ek na con artists ha! ) Beware!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteGuild leader na ESTAFADOR! Be a good sample naman - tigilan mo na yang pang gagantso mo - makukulong ka, sige ka - kilala na kita! :)
ReplyDeletekaya pala ang papayat nila pareho ngayon siguro hindi masubo ang kanin at ulam sa dumi ng mga konsensya nila!
ReplyDeletedi ko nmn to kilala FP! clues please readers!
ReplyDeletekalowka!! infer!! galing nga ng clues sa title.. perfectly done.. heheheh!! im a social climber hater meself!! i mean.. why dont these people just live by their means.. i dont think there's nothing wrong with that.. kung di kaya.. wag ipilit.. kaya nababaon sa utang eh.. and yes may pinaghuhugutan ako.. im a victim of an estafador gay designer/photographer/con artist.. i hate these people.. bakit pag designer ka kelangan magpanggap kang mayaman?! does it follow?! ayan tuloy nagnanakaw pa.. hmpf!! kakainis!! these people are so disappointing.. ayan tuloy.. nadadamay yung ibang gay designers coz of these people.. coz personally.. ganyan na tingin ko sa kanilang lahat.. im not sure with others though.. im just speaking for meself.. =P
ReplyDeleteIf ther's anything blind items such as theseteach us, it is nit to be fooled by appearances. They may seem to be living large, but they have hideous sleletons in the closet, or should I say, room? :) I'm sure hindi lang si DA ang navictimize nitong au pair na 'to.
ReplyDeleteIntegrity is priceless, for everything else, there's Mastercard. I hope they realize that all the expensive make-up in the world cannot cover your character flaws. Straight or not, L and B should man-up and do the right thing. Monetary issues aside, if they still want to preserve the names that they've worked hard for, they should pay their debts. Otherwise, people should not avail of their services. I don't want fake people touching my face or designing my frocks.
ReplyDeleteTo the 1st Anonymous poster, anong gym mo sila ka-buddy? I-post mo naman yung name para maiwasan ng ibang readers, at baka pati kami nakawan ng dalawang 'to. Sa hirap siguro ng buhay ngayon kaya they would resort to doing bad deeds to good people. I don't want to be their victim. Thanks DA and FP for warning us!
ReplyDeleteTo enraged victim of a gay designer...Totoo, bakit kung designer kailangang magpanggap na mayaman? Hindi naman ang financial background nung person ang tinitingnan, yung talent di ba? And to the make-up artist, well, I agree with Anon 11:35, even Lady Macbeth cannot cover up her guilt with all the perfumes of the world.
ReplyDeletemag-boyfriend ba si L and B or mag-business partners lang?
ReplyDeleteYes. im a designer.. but im not like that :)
ReplyDeletemay article si make up artist if you google that touted him as the top craftsman in the field that's why he was hired by the make up na parang menthol candy. hindi lang pala siya top craftsman, top estafador pa! who's next on FP's next Top Estafadora?!?!
ReplyDelete“I’m very honored and thrilled to be part of a brand whose lineage of makeup innovations speaks highly of it.”
ReplyDeleteQuotable quote from the make-up artist. Translated, I'm horrified and aghast to realize that I am part of a lineage who only steals and have no integrity.
Love you FP, keep up the good vigilant work. FP readers, mag-expose pa tayo ng ibang taong may masasamang pakay sa buhay!
Tweet ni make up artist last Oct. 8: Goodmorning. Off to a raket. Busy is always good!:-)
ReplyDeleteAno daw, may nanakawan na naman siya?!?!?!
tweet from make-up artist last Sep 1: Pagoda Philippines. Mahirap plang maging si Curacha!!:-)
ReplyDeleteMas mahirap pag nakulong ka na! Magbayad ka na!
tweet from make-up artist last Aug 31: The perks of my so called "job"....
ReplyDeleteAno, ang makapagnakaw ng make-up at salapi?!?!?! Bistado ka na!
tweet from make-up artist last Aug. 19: Everytime that i watch Hell's Kitchen, i get palpitations.
ReplyDeleteEh whenever you think of the people na niloko mo, what do you feel?!?!? Magbago ka na!
I love this BI!Galing ng initials on the title!
ReplyDeleteBC = LC...haha!
Mayabang ang couple na ito... lalo na si make-up artist! Sana mas naging humble si B since anak siya ng isang labandera. Actually walang masamang maging anak ng labandera... pero sana umarte sa naaayon.
ReplyDeletedo they go to fitness first in rob ermita?
ReplyDeleteto October 12, 2011 12:31 PM
ReplyDeleteyah exactly yung talent.. so i dunno why they need to climb that social ladder.. tapos nababaon sa utang.. kse they were trying to keep up with the lifestyle.. will buy designer bags and flaunt it to less fortunate friends.. knows every kind of jewelry.. some terms i dont even know of.. then for all we know.. utang pala lahat na di kaya bayaran.. and will even result to stealing and estafa kse hinahabol na ng authorities.. how do we help these people?! the victims i mean.. well maybe this blog of FP is one way of doing it i hope..
nakhu mayabang nga yang B na yan kung maka asta at maka project sa Rockwell! eh mang gagantso naman pala - lagi pang naka POUT ang pose nya -
ReplyDeletesi L naman i saw him one time carrying a FENDI logo canvas tote - to my surprise a week later nasa second hand store na nya yung Fendi tote for SAle hahahahahahahaha! ginagamit mga paninda niya ! Gimikerang mga ilusyonada!
Thanks FP = just like Ricky LO for PhilStar, I know credible ang mga posts mo . Ive encountered these two con artists - negative vibes sila promise!
ReplyDeleteoh my God I know the victim - mayaman siyang tao but he doesnt deserve na manakawan!
ReplyDeleteI will have to strongly advise him to file a case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ang make up artist ba yung nanggaling pa sa city of lights para lang matutong maglagay ng kolorete sa mukha? kaya pala afford niya mag-train doon kasi ang dami na nyang nakulimbat na salapi.
ReplyDeleteBasta ako una. Eh bakeet vah! Hahaha
ReplyDeleteGuys hindi nyo ikakaganda yang pagiging Judgemental. Hindi porket may utang sila masama na silang tao.
Yung nagsabi here na mayabang, ay nako hindi mo sila kilala ng husto dear!
^_^
Sino sila??? Clue plssss!!!!!
ReplyDeleteto anon oct. 12, 2011 2:20PM
ReplyDeleteAre you even reading the letter? We're not castigating these two because they have utang. Granted, at one point everybody here must've incurred monetary debt. We're castigating them for not facing their responsibilities. Tinatakbuhan nang dalawa yung victim! Kahit saang impyerno mo dalhin yang kaso mo, the mere fact na tina-takbuhan nila yjng PhP 500,000.00, makes them look shady, suspicious, hell, even criminal? Estafa yan eh. Maybe mabait sila sa iyo, pero tingnan natin how you will change your tune kapag ikaw na ang tinakbuhan nila from their pagkakautang. If I were you, bumalik ka na lang sa pag-gigym mo sa rob place fitness first, at maghanap ka na lang ng hada dun, coz I'm sure yan yung ibig mong sabihin when you said gym buddies mo sila.
please give me a clue pa hindi ko pa din gets ang bi.di ko ata kilala itong mga ito.
ReplyDeleteOctober 12, 2011 2:20 PM
ReplyDeletewhy?! ikakaganda ba ng 2 yung di nila pagbayad ng utang nila?! maybe if they'll just pay their debts.. or atleast man up to it.. i mean kung di pa kayang bayaran.. then why not just explain the situation.. di yung nagtatago.. i truly understand how DA feels.. pinagtataguan sya.. no phone call/sms/email man lang.. and yet makikita nya na nakikipagsoshalan sa kung ano anong parties/clubs.. na kung makaporma at magdala ng mga designer bags nila eh high almighty sila.. tsk.. tsk.. that's really b*llsh*t!! do your responsibility first before ka magwaldas ng pera.. i so know the feeling and it's not good.. frustrating really.. annoying.. lahat na ng kabwisitan..
and one more thing.. con artists are known to be mababait people.. kaya nga con artists sila eh.. they're only acting.. mabait sila pag may napapala sila sayo.. pay may utang na.. di na mahagilap.. for the love of money (sama mo na designer bags, clothes, jewelry, travel abroad, clubs, lifestyle..) is the root of all evil!!
ReplyDeleteHindi nga naman siguro mayabang si B, anak naman pala ng labandera eh. Sa susunod na makikita ko siya sa MF, ibibigay ko sa kanya ang marumi kong labada. Babayaran ko naman siya eh, bilang tulong ko na para mabayaran niya ang malaking amount of money na itinakbo niya.
ReplyDeleteNashock ako.. asawa pala ni whitney houston (ex) at gabrielle solis yung si B ... isa siyang maximum factor sa story na ito. Yung L ang hindi ko pa nagegets. hehehehehe
ReplyDeletehahahaha!! oh ayan nabatikos tuloy si October 12, 2011 2:20 PM.. kse naman super tangol ka pa.. eh ikaw nga unang unang nglaglag sa kanila.. hahhaha!! you're so funny.. i wouldnt even guessed who they were if not for you..
ReplyDeleteto: October 12, 2011 2:34 PM: sobrang napatawa mo ko with this line: If I were you, bumalik ka na lang sa pag-gigym mo sa rob place fitness first, at maghanap ka na lang ng hada dun, coz I'm sure yan yung ibig mong sabihin when you said gym buddies mo sila..
may pinaghuhugutan ka din ba?! =P
to angrybird.. wala naman pinaghuhugutan, hahahaha, nadala lang sa emosyon. hahahaha. pa-virginal ako sa gym eh. pag may tumititig sa akin, na-sha-shy ako, tago kagad sa shower room. hahahaha!
ReplyDeletewhen i googled the designer guy, i saw a pic of him and "pearly queen/king," who was also featured in a blind item here: http://www.fashionpulis.com/2011/02/hail-to-queenking-chapter-2.html
ReplyDeletethanks to krisaquinostd for mentioning it just recently. hehehe
Ang alam ko the mukap artist is blacklisted from his former makeup company dahil ginastusan siya for training abroad then hindi siya tumupad sa contract ng exclusivity kaya chinugi na din siya!
ReplyDelete6:56am, di ba sila yung couple na starring sa book ni Kitty Go? Pagkatapos mabuking sa book nag lay low tapos nag resurrect Ng business noong may nakilala silang Pinoy new yorker para malagay sila sa Vogue. Hindi alam Ng madani kahit bags niya na na feature sa vogue, hindi din binabayaran ang suppliers ng bag kaya paiyakan din silang nakapag ulit ng order sa supplier Ng bags.
ReplyDeleteParis trained ka pa ah...di ka naman makabayad!
ReplyDeleteB sold fake bags (Louis vuitton and balenciaga) in their rockwell store before! mabait ba yan? eh mataas lagi ang kilay, feeling mayaman.
ReplyDeleteO cge na nga suko nko. Diko sila kilala bka di sikat.:)
ReplyDeleteKape para dun sa Highblood!
ReplyDeleteDi ka naman kabilang sa circle, nakikisawsaw ka lang tey... Kaya quiet na okayy? Hahaha
nung niresear ko yung tweet" Everytime that i watch Hell's Kitchen, i get palpitations."
ReplyDeletelumabas kung sino.. haha ayos..
Marami talagang tao ganyan. Ako rin ay biktima recently ng mag-asawang swindler. Basta pag di ako nabayaran ng mga iyon, ikukuwento ko rin sayo fp. Di sila sikat pero related sa isang sikat yung isa sa kanila. Madami naloko itong magasawang ito hanggang ngayon
ReplyDeleteAll I can say is a lot of social climbers now are being invited to social events and being featured to fashion and society mags (MODELS EDITORS DESIGNERS MAKE-UP ARTISTS AND PEOPLE FROM SHOWBIZ) There is the so called "it" group composing of pretty girls and gays that are always invited to events and making them indemand but for me they are bunch of nobody's thats why the ELITE DOESNT ATTEND MUCH OFTEN to events because they dont want to be associated with that kind of group and as they say TODAYS SOCIAL CLIMBERS ARE TOMORROW'S SOCIALITES
ReplyDeletelakas nman makapout ni B. Mas madami pa nga akong followers sa twitter kesa sa kanya eh hahaha!! Di ako makapaniwala magagawa ni L ito. Kamaganak nya ang yumaong king of rap diba?
ReplyDeleteI am just really saddened when I read this. They should know their responsibilities especially when it comes to their finances. It's really hard to deal with this kind of situation especially if you have to pay that kind of amount. Very bad call for B and L! Very bad!
ReplyDeleteToday's social climbers are tomorrow's socialites!!!! True ka dyan!!!
ReplyDeleteHay sa Pinas Ang dami nyan.. mga chuma charity ball kuno, organize 'awards' for wannabe known rich people.. Mga pa event event na barkada so they can be photographed etc..
For you to find out Kung sino itong 2 Ito. First type Max (makeup brand) Philippines makeup artist at lalabas Kung sino si B. Then para malaman kung sino si L type B's name and Rockwell store. Ayun na!!! PS ..si L sobrang feeling...well di nakakagulat kasi close friend niya ang isang babaeng editor ng isang bagong beauty magazine na wala nagbabasa na isang pa grabeng gumawa ng kwento (pathological liar). Naku this womans story is good enough for FP pero hindi ito sikat..maloloka kayo sa mga lies na lumalabas sa mouth, ilong, ears nito Violetta
ReplyDeleteSi Kris pala mahilig sa bay leaf
ReplyDeleteI used to buy a lot in Paul Smith Shangri-la awhile back when it was still new and I remember this L young upstart designer was a salesperson there! He used to tell me that he couldn't even afford to buy the stuff he was selling then! EW and now he's stealing? YIKES!
ReplyDeleteunlike before, mas may pedigree pa mga dogs kesa todays so called socialites :)
ReplyDeleteIn Philippine culture they are what is called "Mga Pobreng Matapobre".
ReplyDeleteNako sanay na yan magpaikot ng tao. Akala ng marami goody goody sila pero may tinatago palang kadiliman hahaha. Magpangap!
ReplyDeleteDont compare socialites from the social climbers. It doesnt mean having jewelries,designer bags, travels etc portrays as bad people its very irrational. they are just enjoying the privilege of owning the good stuff. Just like when you dream of having a house and lot or a car. Ganun din dream nila difference is their dreams always come true because their ancestors worked hard for it. Just like for the rest of us working, to save up and spend some leisure time with our family. No wonder there are many OFWs abroad noh?
ReplyDeleteWell sabi nga naman nila, "Well, as the baby grows, the room’s got to get bigger"
ReplyDeleteSo does their utang hahahahahaha.
how sad....i kindda look up to L pa nman...well i look up to him as a designer, so that wudnt change i guess, despite these things....
ReplyDeletei know this couple, lagi din sila sa GRINDR..lol..
and the other day, i was using the phone of my jowa(na afam)....L is flirting with my jowa,ah..kalowka...
Too Bad I love L designs pa naman :-( Sa hndi pa maka hula Si designer L yung last name niya parang katunog ang watch na mamahalin Si make up artist B naman ka name yung sikat na babaeng make up artist sa US, last name niya ka pangalan ni AMir of Rap sa pinas yun nah
ReplyDeletelove this line: I don't want fake people touching my face or designing my frocks.
ReplyDeletei hope ang next blog posts ng mag jowang ito will be their days spent inside city jail ! Mahiya kayong 2 - mag jowa pero grinder ng grinder - swindle ng swindle!
ReplyDeleteSi L - used to do a line of tshirts with an Imeldiffic icon logo! Si B naman totoo bang anak yan ng labandera - eh bakit ang dumi dumi ng ugali niya! Dapat ikula yan - promise!
ReplyDeleteI know DA mayaman at nasa militar ang pamilya niyan - bakit di niya ipadakip ang 2 balasubas na ito - magtago na kayo - nabibilang na mga araw niyo !
ReplyDeleteang sad na nga maging baklang mahirap, mas worse pa itong dalawang to, pobreng baklang magnanakaw!
ReplyDeletesa totoo lang, para matuto itong mga ito, i-boycott sila. dont buy mf mukap habang cheap mukaparteest nila saB, wag bumili ng damit mula kay L. teach them a lesson, crime does not pay! let's not stop until mabangkarote ang dalawang beking harot na yan!
ReplyDeletePaano naging Chief make up artist si B - dapat yan ipakulong at ipahuli sa Chief of Police - mas bagay sa kanya !
ReplyDeleteomg, read the comments sa bibliya ng istilo.com kung saan may feature si mukap girl B. hiniwalayan na ata siya ng jowa niyang si L.
ReplyDeletenaku, baka mag-harakiri na ang dalawa, hahabulin na sila ng afp aka, associates of fashion pulis. go fp mafia!
ReplyDeletegood call on wanting to boycott their services and products. if you want to stop the rampant proliferation of diamonds, don't buy these gems. if you want to stop the illegal trade of ivory, don't create a need for it. supporting them is not helping these two. lalo lang silang mababaliw sa buhay na hindi naman pala kayang sustentuhan, in the end, nanloloko sila ng kapwa, di ba? mas simple pa buhay ni L noon nung nasa PS pa cya bilang sales. Poor man, malinis naman kunsensiya niya. magtinda ka na lang uli.
ReplyDeletea simple message to the estafa couple of the 21st century, you can run, you can hide, but you cant escape camp karingal. hahaha. look on the bright side, the world has turned its back on you, but you still have each other! (so whats the good news? - wala!)
ReplyDeleteyou know guys we are not sure if the accusation is true. and we have not heard the other side of the story. and why do you hit on the designer? he is not even involved.
ReplyDeleteim sure fp has done his research and ensured that what he will post is backed by proof. he hasn't disappointed with his other fashion exposes, some of which have resulted in apologies. and among all the commenters here, anon oct 14 1:42am, ikaw lang ang nag-attempt mag-defend. B or L, is that you? affected much ka? or gym- buddy, ikaw ba yan? nagbalat kayo ka lang ba at nag-return, asking for proof? do you want proof? yesterday, B's twitter was open for public consumption, you'd be able to read all of his tweets. when somebody informed himof this blog, and he realized he could be traced by googling his tweets, he made his account private. doesn't that sound fishy? i don't know about you, pero mukhang guilty!
ReplyDeletethe designer is invloved. business partner nya si mukap person B sa little store nila. therefore, the wrong business practice of one partner, if the other partner does not do anything to correct him, would make him privy to the act as well. obvious ba na friend mo si B and/or si L? o baka naman ikaw yung aso na namesake ng store nila? arf arf!
ReplyDeleteginoo o ginang anonymous 10/14/11 1:42am, sabihan mo na lang ang mang-gagancho mong kaibigan na magsalita na sila. may bigay na sila ng statement nila ukol sa isyung ito. ilang araw na at nananahimik pa rin ang kampo nila. buti pa si PQ, inako ang responsibilidad ng mga pagkakamali niya. eh sila?
ReplyDeleteto the supporters of B and L, para namang hindi kayo sanay sa Pinas na ikaw ay guilty unless proven innocent. so since wala pa silang rebuttal para sa letter na ito, they seem guilty! kung gusto niyo i-defend ang magjowa, come up with your own blog. as for now, masaya kami dito sa fp na nilalait ang mga fez nila nang bonggang bongga! magnanakaw kayo!
ReplyDeletekilala ko si DA, at sinabi naman niya sa letter niya na hindi na siya nag-eexpect na mabayaran. malamang this was done para lang ma-warningan ang ibang tao na nais makipag-transaction sa gay couple na ito. kilala ko rin si B. mapanlinlang talaga siyang tao, kaya hindi ako na-surprise na may ganito pala siyang itinatago.
ReplyDeleteoh yes - i know how fearless and real FP can be - and I will attest to the negativity of B and L! I may not know DA but I have encountered Bo and Lo - ang bilis ng pag angat niyo ( that is kung umangat man kayong 2 ha? ) ay siya rin bilis x5 pa ng pag bagsak nyo NOW na!
ReplyDeleteDA sige na mag file ka na ng estafa case - i cant wait to see L and B doing a Flor Contemplacion acting inside city jail!
ReplyDeletebakit nga hindi maghihiwalay yang dalawa eh grinder nga ng grinder baka naka hook na ng mga prospect na afams na madadatungan at mananakawan na naman nila!!!!!!!!! WARNING - mga GRINDER FRIENDS!!!!!!!!! Beware of B and L!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWow..I read ALL the comments. I can't believe how people can be SO judgemental. There might be a bit of truth to what the letter-sender alleges- WE REALLY DON'T KNOW. It's easy to compose a letter and besmirch people's reputations, without GETTING BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY, and FACT-CHECKING.
ReplyDeleteI happen to know the couple. L and I go back a long time, when we worked together at a high-end shop. HE IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT PEOPLE ACCUSE HIM OF IN THIS POST. He is a good friend, fair in his dealings. Like most people he must have gone through the bad economy, shut down their shop, owed people some money perhaps, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM A CRIMINAL. B is not my favorite person, we are not even friends- but I know he is not what he is made out to be in this post. I know these people, and they NOT CAPABLE of something criminal.
Haters who are DYING WITH ENVY with other peoples' successes well, I suggest you make some of your own.
anon oct 14 12:05pm, people never really are what they seem. what this post is trying to say is inherently deceitful ang mga tao. nasasabi mo yan ngayon na hindi ganyan ang pakikitungo ng magjowang yan sa yo, pero they are capable of hiding this truth. they have been lying to you to your face pretending na everything is okay pero apparently kaya pala nila takbuhan ang ganun kalaking pagkakautang! hindi kami judgemental, hindi lang kami kasing clueless mo para maloko ng magjowang con artist na yan. in short, we are the oneswho are enlightened, you're in the dark. let me end with this, "you are the company you keep." if you're friends with b or l, then chances are you're either a cheap mae up artist or a struggling designer, with not a single centavo to your name, or a property to call your own. you are nothing, so it is easier for you to do whatever it takes to be somebody even if it means lying, and yes stealing. pare-pareho kayo ng dalawang kaibigan mo.
ReplyDeletewe are not dying of envy my dear, we were born into money. hindi kami katulad ninyo na daily struggle ang mabuhay. we have silver spoons in our mouths, and everything is given to us on a silver platter. ikaw na mismo ang nagsabi, you worked with him in a shop, so what does that make you? a salesperson! try as hard as you can, you woll never be one of us. you or b and l for that matter. you join us in our little parties, but at the end of it all, b just does make up and l is just a mananahi. kaya nagnakaw.
ReplyDeletebottom line..pay up B & L.... end of story
ReplyDeleteBottom line....pay up B&L....end of story!
ReplyDeletehimayin natin ang sinabi nitong anonymous na ito:
ReplyDelete1. Like most people he must have gone through the bad economy, shut down their shop, owed people some money perhaps, BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE HIM A CRIMINAL.
Granted na nalugi ang business. Ang pinuputok ng butchi ng madla dito ay hindi ang pagkakaroon ng utang, ngunit ang pag-iwas sa responsibilidad mong magbayad. Nasaan ang LOST CONSIGNED GOODS? Kung hindi naibenta nang nagsara ang shop, isoli. Kung naibenta, bayaran. Malinaw? What makes him a criminal, yung hindi pag-ako ng responsibilidad para sa goods na on consignment lang. Kaya sinasabi nang mga nagbabasa na magnanakaw sila, dahil hangga't hindi nababalik ang nawawalang goods, considered stolen iyon.
2. It's easy to compose a letter and besmirch people's reputations, without GETTING BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY, and FACT-CHECKING.
Alam namin iyon. Madali din ang magtago sa pangalang Anonymous at mag-post sa Fashion Pulis, hindi ba? You seem to be offering the other side of the story already. Bakit, ikaw ba si B o si L? Fact-checking ba kamo? Dude, hindi naman sa pang-aano, pero blind item ito.. chismis. Not unless lumabas ng lantaran ang parehong partida, walang factual dito. Lahat nang nababasa mo, pawang opinyon lahat.
3. B is not my favorite person, we are not even friends- but I know he is not what he is made out to be in this post.
Eh hindi pala kayo magkaibigan eh, pero alam mo na hindi niya puwedeng magawa iyon? Labo nun dude ha. Maski nanay mo naman ata, feeling mo kilala mo, magugulat ka na lang na may mga kaya pala siyang gawing bagay na hindi rin tama.
4.Haters who are DYING WITH ENVY with other peoples' successes well, I suggest you make some of your own.
Hindi naman malinaw na may naiinggit sa dalawang friends mo eh. Sa mga nabasa kong comments, galit lang sila sa manloloko. Siguro, ikaw naiinggit ka, kasi hindi ka nila hinatian sa kita nila sa mga nakulimbat nila.
Klaro na tayo? Sige, sa Bulgar ka na lang magbasa ng blind items mo, napag-iinitan ka dito masyado. Ingat!
I also had a similar experience, I consigned some items...initially they paid for some stuff which were sold then when I got back to ask for the balance....B was unavailable and nowhere to be found! I can never trust people like him!!
ReplyDeletei am totally disgusted with those two working class thieves. lets change their initials to HLPG (hampas lupang patay gutom) and DDP (death defyingly poor). they are barely a generation away from their washer women ancestors. YUCK.
ReplyDeleteAgain, more insults hurled at these people because it's a free for all. If it is indeed true they owe that much money then I agree they should own up and man up and face the music. The posts here directed at them are vengeful, vindictive and of a personal nature. People like L and B have had their achievements because they have worked hard, and talent. I wish them well. To L, my friend, if you're reading this, stay strong. Face your accusers. Let me know if you need help even if I am not there physically. To the people who post here stick to the issues. Insults are not necessary. If you are staying anonymous and spewing why don't you show yourselves :-)
ReplyDeleteTo the real old rich socialite:
ReplyDeleteWow!!! Good for you, you say you were born rich. Pero yuck, feel na feel mo naman yata iyang circle mo. You have no right para hamakin o maliitin kahit sino mang pinanganak na mahirap. Bakit, ikaw na ba ang pinakamayaman sa mundo? And nobody gives a flying F about being one of you guys lalong lalo na kung ang makakasama lang naman ay isang pathetic matapobreng katulad mo.
Nobody from the old rich would ever refer to themselves as 'old rich.' So maybe you should change your name to the fake old rich socialite.
Thank you phow jejeje
To Old Rich Socialite and 10th Generation Oligarch:
ReplyDeleteI worked at PS only for a short time to indulge my love for the brand, left for the US after that. I now live a very blessed life thank you very much. My husband and I have a VERY successful business, we own properties off the Newport Coast, and Tiburon in Marin County, San Francisco. If you are familiar with real estate in the US then you should know how much money one has to make to be able to OWN properties in this areas.
And don't even let me start on how many Birkins I own.
You know what I observe when I worked at PS, was YOU SO-CALLED RICH SOCIALITES WITH THE PROVERBIAL SILVER SPOON?, NEVER buy anything full-price:-) Or these people come to window-shop, or window-dress:-) Or talk to us about how they are SUCH BIG FANS of PS but NEVER BUYS. I mean, c'mon, walk the talk people!!
So you know what I am NEVER IMPRESSED with you because most of you only have NAMES but no liquid assets to speak of. And I've seen your parties in blogs- a lot of you- HORRIBLE FASHION SENSE.
I mean, do you guys ever OWN a KITON suit? I bet you've NEVER HEARD OF IT because you can't drop $7,000 a pop on a suit. How about a $700 tie? Your shops in Manila are watered-down versions of brands- some of you go to HK to shop- that's ok they have a decent selection. Slim pickings but slightly better. No Bergdorfs, Barney's or Neiman for you guys because you so-called RICH FILIPINOS have to either CORRUPT, STEAL FROM GOVERNMENT, EVADE TAXES to be able to afford to shop at these places. So don't even get me started.
Just because you think you are so much more "privileged" than them does not make you a BETTER person.
You "socialites" are the laughingstock of the REAL rich Pinoys don't you realize that? We find your parties laughable, your wardrobes pathetic.
Come hang with me at La Caprice at the Hotel Pierre in NYC next week and we'll talk shop:-)
sa matapobreng the real old rich socialite. swerte ka at naging mayaman ka as you said. but with the way you talk, and with how you look at life. you're such a worthless piece of human gargabe. di ko aasaming masama sayo o sa mga katulad mo. (for all i know ang yaman ng pamilya nyo galing din sa mga pandurugas at pagnanakaw, dahil kung matinong pamilya kayo, naturuan ka sana ng tama.)kung makapanglait ka just does make up and is just a mananahi? ikaw, your just an idiot!
ReplyDeleteanyway! hate ko din yang B na yan. kala mo kung sino. at mayaman daw sila diba. si L ok naman. di naman nya ko minamalditahan.
we all come from different backgrounds and swerte swertehan lang kaya don't be so i am rich you are poor drama. hindi naman yun yung issue. u can be rich but still be shabby with dealings.
ReplyDeletewe must be angry sa mga taong irresponsible. kailangan itanim sa kokote nila na hindi yun ok.
kahit di naman mabayaran ng isang beses lahat ok lang. kahit monthly or once in 2 months im sure ma appreciate yun ni letter sender. iba talagang usapan if tinataguan ka coz in bad faith na yun
Oh ok so you were a salesperson (you don't have to justify why you were one) before you uprooted and got married? Then I'm happy for your much improved life :)although it's obvious which side of the sales counter you still relate to not that there's anything wrong with that.
ReplyDeleted man lang natin pinakinggan ang kabilang side. naghusga na tayo kaagad.
ReplyDeleteang squatter naman ng nung naglista ng mga bahay niya sa US, at marami daw siyang birkin? the comment sounds so fantastic... a little bit too fantastic, don't you think? chances are, fake ito! wala talaga siyang binatbat. ano ito wishlist nya? hoy, fashion pulis 'to, hindi wish ko lang. parang si aling dionesia ata yun, milyon milyon daw yung hermes na ibinili ni pacquiao, garden tote lang pala. isa kang ilusyonada! kahit pano mo paikiot-ikot ang mga fantastic stories mo, sabi nga ni mata pobremg socialite, tindera ka pa rin. you can take the girl out of the palengke, but you can't take the palengke out of the girl. sige, magkita tayo sa new york... new york, cubao!
ReplyDeleteto anon oct 14 9:55pm: let me know if you need help even if i am not there personally.
ReplyDeletepauutangin mo sila pambayad sa mga pinagkakautangan nila? baka ikaw naman ang takbuhan ng dalawang yan! the supporters of B and L talk big, what we have yet to witness is them putting their money where there mouth is! pay-up! wanna help your friend? well, the cat's out of the bag, the gay lovers owe a LOT of money and have not shown intentions of paying. if you really are L's friend, loan him the money. if you can't wire the money to him, what's stopping you? deep down inside, alam mo na baka takbuhan ka lang din niya.
may lumantad pang isang victim! enough facts na ba ito para dun sa milyonaryong peke nating kababayan na marami raw birkin at bahay sa states, kahit alam naman nating recession sila doon? anymthoughts, or comments?
ReplyDeletenag- consign din daw siyansa shop nung dalawa, at hindimrin daw binayaran, said anonymousmposter from oct 14, 6:42pm. seems to be a pattern for that shop. ano ba yun, blackhole? the goods you consign get sucked into another dimension and get sold there?
i love anonymous oct 14, 2011, 6:00pm. napaka-articulate ng retorts niya! hindi tulad ng uba jan na marami raw birkin,mat bahay sa US. si anon oct 14 6:00pm ang magandang example ng isang mahusay na fp reader. more power to fp and anon 10/14/11 6:00pm!
ReplyDeletesi B, proud na proud yan sa mga prada nyang gamit, yuckk! halatang ngayon lang nakakabili ng designer goods. baka galing pa iyon sa pinagbentahan ng mga make up na di binalik. sayang si L, mabait pa naman
ReplyDeletewe're all straying far from the topic, can we come back to earth and discuss the magjowa
ReplyDelete@anonymous 10/15 6:05pm. the shop of B and L is not a blackhole. it's the Bermuda Triangle for designer goods! and guess kung saan sila napupunta, sa closet ni B!
ReplyDeleteaanhin ko ang mabait, kung hindi naman niya pinapayuhan ang bf niya na magbayad ng kautangan.
ReplyDeletebaka naman di totoo yan... yung nagreklamong consigner na si DA. kung talagang may utang sa kanya na ganun kalaki eh bakit hindi nay ipaPULIS... at kung naghahanap man sya IMPOSIBLENG hindi nya makikita o mahahagilap ang make up artist at designer... napakaliit ng mundo no! di ka na rin dapat nag BLIND ITEM.... derechahan na lang...
ReplyDeleteSabi ng person who claims madami syang houses in the states: "...how they are SUCH BIG FANS of PS but NEVER BUYS..." and "...So you know what I am NEVER IMPRESSED with you because most of you only have NAMES but no liquid assets to speak of..." super poor sentence construction. It super sounds like when maids are on their day off and trying to speak english to impress the village security guard. Forensic evidence shows that the blood that runs through this ocw is pure bagoong balayan.
ReplyDeleteGuys, I am merely trying to prove a point to OLD RICH and 10th GENERATION OLIGARCH- That I am quite sure I make more money and OWN MORE PROPERTY THAN THESE 2 BUT I AM NOT QUICK TO CALL L AND B MATAPOBRE AND HAMPASLUPA. Yun lang!!
ReplyDeleteBtw, I own my own home health care company serving areas of OC LA and SF. Di po ako ilusyonada. As a matter of fact I just mentioned my Birkins(not fakes, silly) na-windang na kayo- I have not even started on my cars. So puh-leeze.
Bago kayo manghusga ng kapwa nyo make sure MAY K kayo? I bet you (OLD RICH AND OLIGARCH) have just as many "utangs" as L and B- I just hope you are MORE RESPONSIBLE.
Back to the real ish, kung totoo man na may na agrabyado sina B and L then I wholeheartedly AGREE that that should PAY-UP, or RETURN THE GOODS.
Btw, the OTHER PARTY has not presented their side so if I were you, before you put a PERSON DOWN make sure fair ang laban. It's so easy to make mincemeat of people here who can't defend themselves,ya?
I agree - B and L has to pay DA at whatever terms possible - whats important is they promise and pledge with all honesty to pay up even if it takes years - INTEGRITY , CREDIBILITY and RESPECT are priceless ! So sad a lot of our sisters really lose out on this in exchange of short lived fame and fortune .......
ReplyDeleteFP - i will follow through this trail and hope you can enlighten more shameless people out there.
Thank you.
B and L tablan naman kayo ng hiya - pa dinner dinner pa rin kayo ha -------- saan nyo na naman kinuha ang pang kain niyo,,,,,,, magbayad muna kayo utang ng loob......!
ReplyDeletedi ba si L is from the city of smiles...... nakhu pekeng smile pala siya - "the con behind the smile!".......
ReplyDeleteOO nga si L galing yan sa province known as the City of Smiles , Eh si B si anong Province ang City of Pout? Grabe yan si B kung maka emote at maka pout - mas mukha siyang galing San Lazario ha!
ReplyDeleteits not for you naman talaga to call people hampaslupa or what coz youre just ocw/nursing/pt money you would be insulting your parents and grandparents in fact
ReplyDeleteoh and its LE Caprice not LA Caprice. If you're going to lie about your ocw life you better lie correctly.
ReplyDeleteSabi ng person who claims madami syang houses in the states: "...how they are SUCH BIG FANS of PS but NEVER BUYS..." and "...So you know what I am NEVER IMPRESSED with you because most of you only have NAMES but no liquid assets to speak of..." super poor sentence construction. It super sounds like when maids are on their day off and trying to speak english to impress the village security guard. Forensic evidence shows that the blood that runs through this ocw is pure bagoong balayan
ReplyDeleteHILARIOUS!! Natamaan ata si OLD RICH because you're one of them POSERS?:-)
POOR SENTENCE CONSTRUCTION? Keber. At least I'm NOT POOR, ya?
Oh I LOOOOVE bagoong:-)
Btw, I agree with one of the people who posted here. THIS IS A SMEAR CAMPAIGN.
To DA, SHOW PROOF!!! AND have them arrested. And sue the hell out of them. IF what you are accusing them is true.
Oo nga naman, Manila is such a a small, pathetic place with pathetic lowlifes flocking together all the time showing off their pathetic designer goods- Why doesn't this DA person just CALL THEM OUT when they see each other? C'mon, it's such a small world.
Haters, you guys are being TOO obvious. Jumping to conclusions without PROOF.
I need to see PROOF FP!!! Let's get this over with once and for all.
ang squatter naman ng nung naglista ng mga bahay niya sa US, at marami daw siyang birkin? the comment sounds so fantastic... a little bit too fantastic, don't you think? chances are, fake ito! wala talaga siyang binatbat. ano ito wishlist nya? hoy, fashion pulis 'to, hindi wish ko lang. parang si aling dionesia ata yun, milyon milyon daw yung hermes na ibinili ni pacquiao, garden tote lang pala. isa kang ilusyonada! kahit pano mo paikiot-ikot ang mga fantastic stories mo, sabi nga ni mata pobremg socialite, tindera ka pa rin. you can take the girl out of the palengke, but you can't take the palengke out of the girl. sige, magkita tayo sa new york... new york, cubao!
ReplyDeleteYou guys amuse me:-) You pathetic, pitiful souls.
Btw, I was not a "tindera", I was hired by the owner as a Manager to temporarily replace the former Manager. L was one of my staff. I can vouch for him- he is an upstanding human being. Things and people may have changed since the early 2000's when I left but the L I know is a good person.
FP, or Mr Lim, please HAVE DA show PROOF. People's reputations and credibility are at stake here. You have to take responsibility for your posts and always , always CYA(cover your ass).
If I were B and L I would sue DA and even you, Mr FP, if you don't have enough proof.
Please publish this post in the guise of fairness:-)
To the girl/boy na allegedly maraming Birkin at cars:
ReplyDeletea. Guys, I am merely trying to prove a point to OLD RICH and 10th GENERATION OLIGARCH- That I am quite sure I make more money and OWN MORE PROPERTY THAN THESE 2 BUT I AM NOT QUICK TO CALL L AND B MATAPOBRE AND HAMPASLUPA. Yun lang!!
A: Nobody is calling L and B mata pobre. If for anything, sila ang minamata. Regarding hampaslupa, oo, hampaslupa lang sila. Tulad nga ng sabi ni RORS and 10th GO, at the end of the day, they just render services. And may I correct the notion, yung isa PARLORISTA, while yung isa MANANAHI. Wala namang masama sa mga "labels" na iyon, dahil kung marangal naman ang trabaho nila, at wala silang ginagawang masama, then they should be proud of what they're doing. 'Di ba, we should be proud of the magsasaka also? Ang masama dito is tinakbuhan nila ang pagkakautang nila kay DA. Basahin mo nang maigi ang liham ni DA. He/She has tried contacting them, pinagtataguan talaga siya. He/She has given them the chance to pay up the PhP 500,000.00 already. Tanggap niya na mahihirapan siya makuha ito. Ilang taon na ang nakalipas, I'm sure he/she has exhausted all possibilities.
b. Btw, I own my own home health care company serving areas of OC LA and SF. Di po ako ilusyonada. As a matter of fact I just mentioned my Birkins(not fakes, silly) na-windang na kayo- I have not even started on my cars. So puh-leeze.
A: Ah, so hindi ka na pala tindera. Caregiver ka na. Sayo na pala ang home health care company mo, so malamang lang, ang napangasawa mo ay puti na matanda, malamang inaalagaan mo dati. Kung nabastusan ka kay RORS at 10th GO, eh mas mas masahol ka pa sa kanila. Kasi, isa ka sa mga Pilipinong nakaapak lang sa 'Tate, ang taas na ng ihi mo, feeling mo you're better than everybody here in the Philippines already. Mas mayabang ka pa duon sa dalawa, kasi may palista-lista ka pa ng mga alleged na ari-arian mo. Hindi mo ba na-realize na napaka-INSECURE na tao lang ang gagawa nun? Kaya si RORS and 10th GO, mas maniniwala ako na mayaman sila, kasi they never once mentioned how rich they are. Ikaw, trying so hard to impress us all.
Sa totoo lang, akala mo ba hindi namin kilala kung sino ka? We know almost all of the salespeople in PS na naging ka-batch ni L. And we have started tracking down their whereabouts already. We were able to account for them. And we know already who you possibly can be. Tinamaan ka ba sa statement ng New York, Cubao? Malamang lang, hindi nalalayo ang pinangggalingan mo sa lugar na iyon, hindi kaya? Ikaw ba yung alleged na may-ari ng SUGI kunwari noon? Hanggang ngayon ba, pathological liar ka pa rin? Kung totoong nasa States ka, pa-check ka na diyan. Malala na ang sakit mo.
BTW THE OTHER PARTY HAS NOT PRESENTED THEIR SIDE. Sabi mo nga. Bakit hindi pa sila sumasagot sa issue na ito? Kung kaibigan mo talaga sila, hindi mo pa ba sila nasasabihan? Isn't your 5-minutes of fame here na palista-lista ka pa ng alleged accomplishments mo enough pa ba to warn your friend/s na sirang-sira na sila? Ang galing mong kaibigan kung ganun.
hindi lang si DA ang nabiktima ng dalawa. may isa pang nag-consign din ng goods niya na hindi na nabayaran. im sure marami pang iba na hindi na lang lumalabas dahil minimal na para sa kanila ang amount na nawala. so, let's not question whether the letter is true or not because im sure FP ensures that letter senders have given him ample evidence of the issue before he posts it, otherwise it will be a case of he-said, she-said. ang tanungin na lang nating lahat is bakit hindi pa nagrerespond si B at si L. obvious tuloy na totoo ang mga naisulat dito, hindi sila nagpaparamdam, pinagtataguan nila ang issue. ganun ang response nila sa kga transgressions nila, takbuhan ang problema. ilang araw na ang nakalipas. si PQ noon, ilang araw bago nag-respond sa re-tagging issue?
ReplyDeletebilang readers tuloy ng FP, nasa atin ang responsibility na bantayan ang issue na ito, tutukan. ngayon, tayong lahat ang magiging saksi. hindi lang si DA na ang pinagtataguan ng dalawang yan ngayon, lahat na tayo.
mistula maging panawagan ito ka L at B (lantaran ko man ilagay ang panga
an nila, i-cecensor pa rin ni FP), anong masasabi ninyo? totoo bang tinakbuhan ninyo si DA at yung isang anonymous poster na nag-consign din? may balak ba kayo ibalik ang lost consigned goods? o iiwasan niyo na lang issue hanggang sa mamatay ito! the clock is ticking. make the right decision, once and for all.
ina ang taong hindi kaya i-defend ang sarili, sa taong gustong iwasan ang problema. miss im-rich-in-the-US. so stop defending your so called friend and instead tell them to answer these allegations. their silence on the issue makes it worst for them, nagmumukha silang guilty. walang bahid nang pambabastos sa dalawa, pero, ano na ba talaga? tinakbuhan niyo ba si DA, o hindi niyo lang pa kaya bayaran? tama na ang pagtatago. hindi man kayo tunay na lalaki, natataon na magpaka-lalaki na kayo. harapin niyo na ang gulong iniiwasan ninyo.
ReplyDeleteFP why did you NOT post my 2 comments?
ReplyDeletedi sila nagtatago. laging nga nagshashout d ba. nagtutweet. my blog. higit sa lahat d naman lumioat ng lungga. so bakit d nyo puntahan sa ermita at dun singilin. o kaya sa fitness first ermita.nainggit lang kayo kase sikat na sila. lagi sa magazine pati aso nila. madaming poster si b sa mga mall. nakabandera din name ni l sa certain brand ng damit.
ReplyDelete"oh and its LE Caprice not LA Caprice. If you're going to lie about your ocw life you better lie correctly" Yes it indeed thanks for doing the research, typographical error- minor details:-)
ReplyDeleteFP what happened to my other comments? Are you being biased? Did I make sense too much?
ReplyDeleteYUUUUUCK!!!!! wala na bang mas ikaka cheap pa ang mag lantad ng kayamanan sa NET???
ReplyDelete# may mga tao dito sa mundo na hindi naman kailangan i lantad yan dahil lang sa mga ARGUMENTO na wala naman kinalaman sa BI itself..
i am soooo disgusted.
kung ang mga totoong mayayaman gaya ng mga princepe sa ibang bansa, hindi ganyan mag salita? eh kayong mga pilipino pa na libag lang ang pera kumpara sa mga hari at reyna? nakakadiri grabe. tinayuan ako ng balahibo. .. if you want your points taken and understood, you dont need to enumerate how rich you are.
ke mahirap oh mayaman, basta kako di nagbabayad ng utang or what.. pareho parehong kasalanan lang yun. kesyo umutang ako ng DELATA sa kanto at tinakbuhan ko, kasalanan pa rin yun.
TO THE ONE WITH THE SILVER SPOON COMMENT: what you are is accidental birth, hindi yan sayo. ikaw ang pinaka mababa na uri ng tao dhil pinagyayabang mo ang kayamanan na di mo naman pinagharapan. :)
-taroush 69
nakakatuwa naman ito.. sa hilig ko sa blind item, na hook ako dito. to find out na di ko pala kilala yung blind item. pero salamat kay October 13, 2011 2:13 AM nakita ko si b at ang twitter nya. at salamat sa twitter nya at nalaman ko nakita ko si l.. pero sorry ha.. sikat ba sila? di ko kasi kilala... thanks to icmendoza sa tweet nya kaya na punta ako dito....
ReplyDeleteSorry if I have to drive a point to make these so-called OLD RICH seem like they are nothing(because they are). People who say "PG" and "hampaslupa"(honestly, people who post here sound too melodramatic)seems a little too immature no? and makes their tirades a little TOO PERSONAL, don't you think? :-)
ReplyDeleteTo the person who said I was an OCW-wrong! Met with the owner of PS when I was about to finish university in NY. Worked at PS for 2 months as a temporary replacement to the Manager who just left. So to the person who said I was a lowly tindera- STRIKE 2.
L was on my staff when I was Manager and I vouch for his integrity and character. People and things may have changed since the last time I saw him,(early 2000's) but I highly doubt he is the type who would NOT FACE responsibilities.
To D.A SHOW PROOF. You are the one accusing so the burden of proof lies in your hands. B and L does not seem bothered by your accusations so, am I missing something here?
To the ONE who says bagoong runs in my blood- well,I looove bagoong. CRAVING and MISSING it:-)
Yes and Le Caprice-typo, hello. Minor details:-)
Thanks for doing research on that one. Now at least you know where classy people hang in NYC- a first-hand knowledge and not just something you guys see on Gossip Girl, ya? :-)
you should just say first hand knowledge, not A FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. its so funny the more you talk the more youre digging a deeper grave for yourself hahaha
ReplyDeleteocw's grammar sounds as if he has bad sungki-sungki teeth!
ReplyDeleteocw lets assume everything you're saying is true then everything you claim to own hasnt been completely paid for and is just being paid for in a "hulugan" way.That's why people ocw-ize or migrate, youre actually trapped in your hulugan property and hulugan birkin na these days are tinatapon nalang ng people who know better.
ReplyDeleteB and L are not reacting to it because they want to run away from the problem, Ms. I'm-So-Sosyal-In-New-York-Cubao.
ReplyDeleteDA doesn't owe you the proof, not unless you're willing to pay for the debt of your so-called friend. And wala ka naman kinalaman sa problema nang dalawa, bakit ka ba nanggugulo dito sa post na ito, masquerading around with your alleged riches.
Did you say you managed PS before? Who cares? Tindera pa rin yun. The owner of a sari-sari store, tindera pa rin. The owner of a laundry shop, labandera pa rin. The owner of a beauty parlor, is still a parlorista.
Why did the old rich not buy full price in PS before? Because they can get it in London cheaper, when they travel there the following month. Hibang ka ba? Para namang hindi mo alam na mataas ang mark-up sa Philippines. Did you really manage a PS store, you're not aware of price differences? Louis Vuitton nga, mas mura sa Europe, so why buy here if you've a trip planned already?
Ever heard of Occams' Razor, my dear? It's a principle that states given an option between two possibilities, the likely scenario is the possibility with the simplest explanation. Here's the possibility, 1. Somebody so crass who claims to be rich with multiple properties (and yet 3 lang ang nilista), and marami daw Birkin (hindi naman binigay which specific Birkins she has), or 2. Fake lang lahat ito, at nasa Cubao talaga siya. Simplest scenario, my dear. You're a lying fake. Be careful, you might be the next BI here in FP because you're so fake. I can see the title now, "Ya? ng Ya?. YAYA lang pala."
Hi to 10th GO. Love your comments, too BTW. :)
ano ba ang oligarchy? parang oligo-saccharide.
ReplyDeleteWhat a jump! From Manager of PS here in the Philippines, to owning a Home Health Care Company in the US. What a success story?!? And by success story, I mean nagbunga ang pagtambay mo gabi-gabi sa Cafe Havana sa Greenbelt. Way to go, galing mo siguro gumiling! Love it! Alagaan mo nang mabuti ang katawang puhunan mo teh!
ReplyDeleteThe true Alta Sociedad in the Philippines are actually the descendants of the Spanish criollos, which include the Zobels, the Ayalas, the Ynchaustis, the Aranetas, the Sorianos, the Elizaldes, the Ortigases, the Perez de Tagles, the Madrigals, the Caleros, the Cuervos, and a lot more. Most of them are of Spanish descent, and Chinese ancestry.
ReplyDeleteThe more recent "adopted Alta Sociedad" such as the Aquinos, Arroyos, Roxases, and Marcos are partly descended from the original Alta Sociedad families. For example, Aquinos from Cojuangcos (Chinese-Spanish), Arroyos from Tuason (Chinese-Spanish), Roxases from Araneta (Chinese-Spanish-Mexican), and Marcos from Romualdez (Chinese-Spanish). These are the political dynasties - most of them are just marginally Alta Sociedad.
The true Alta Sociedad people in the first paragraph have a low profile and do commute regularly between the Philippines, Spain, and the United States. They have extensive business and corporate links, but they shun from politics.
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It would therefore be more correct to say that the Upper Middle Class controls politics.
ocw - minor details? when all of these minor errors of yours add-up with your major errors in grammar they paint a vivid picture of what kind of a crass and tasteless liar you are. Even with just how you talk and think, noone would want to have your life despite how you try to sugarcoat your bagoong balayan ways.
ReplyDelete"B and L does not seem bothered..." its supposed to be "B an L DO NOT seem bothered". Ugh you're so weird. I think the reason it's so fitting to label you an ocw is you really talk like one.
ReplyDeleteYes and Le Caprice-typo, hello. Minor details:-)
ReplyDeleteIt's the minor details that enables people to catch you in a lie. Just saying.
public school grammar sugar coated with an american accent kawawa naman
ReplyDeletegaling naman nun, 2 months lang na temp, can vouch for the integrity of L already. napaka-kuwentong barbero naman nito. at bakit siya defensive na matawag na ocw/ofw? weird naman. eh kung doon talaga siya based, hindi yun din naman talaga ang tawag dapat sa kanya. melodramatic ba kamo? ikaw nga, para kang cheap na kontrabidang kailangan ipagmayabang ang meron nya para mapansin. nakakadiri ka. i can stress enough how disgusting you are. ni hindi man lang ako nasuka kay old rich at kay oligarch, sayo sukang-suka ako. napaka-sangsang mong tao.
ReplyDeletestrike 2 ka jan? eh kug bangasin namin mukha mo. humanda ka sa airport pag. bumalik ka dito. hindi ako mayaman, hindi ako sosyal, jolog ako... at ikaw ang tipong tao na kinaiiritahan naming mga jolog. yung mga sosyal, kaya pa namin tanggapin, pero yung mga tulad mong nagpipilit paka-sosyal, nakaka-imbey talaga. jologs united laban sayo inday inday sa nuyork
ReplyDeleteFP should change the title of the post na siguro, way off-topic na tayo. hindi na kay B or L galit, kay Birkin girl na. Title should be Birkin Collector = Lying is not Charming, Gaga!
ReplyDeleteHo-hum, this OCW is signing off. Bored to death with you people. (seriously guys I had to look up OCW- I'm not btw, US born citizen- Strike 3:-)
ReplyDeleteHaters this is not about me. I am so over this post. B and L have not admitted or apologized to DA, and DA, where are you? Can you just sue them and be done with it?
Ocw signing off. Bored to death.
Next scandal please. This issue is dying already.
kawawa naman si sarah jolog palasya of new york, cubao. parang walang kakampi.
ReplyDeletebuti nga. hahaha
Popcorn thread ang comments section dito! Exciting! I'm sure nae-entertain at relieved din sina B & L kasi nakakadistract ang madla dahil kay Ateng taga-NY kuno.
ReplyDeleteP.S. Ateng taga-NY, wag ka na lang mag-comment. Lumalabas lang ang pagka-matapobre mo e. Kung proud ka sa mga kayamanan mo, pwes, wag mo na lang ipalandakan sa COMMENTS SECTION ng isang CHISMIS blog. (Cheap huh!) Kung may malasakit ka sa iba, tumulong ka na lang kaya sa mahihirap/may sakit? Wag kang magsayang ng oras dito na idefend ang pride mo dito (of all places) dahil walang maitutulong yan. Make the world a better place, 'ika nga.
P.P.S. B & L, mahiya pa rin kayo sa balat niyo dahil hindi pa rin namin nakakalimutan ang kalokohan niyo. Pay up!
"Ho-hum, this OCW is signing off. Bored to death with you people. (seriously guys I had to look up OCW- I'm not btw, US born citizen- Strike 3:-)"
ReplyDeletePero ang sinabi mo dati ay, "I worked at PS only for a short time to indulge my love for the brand, left for the US after that. I now live a very blessed life thank you very much."
Really? As a US Citizen, you travelled here to Manila just to manage a PS branch. Why, was PS here actually owned by the mother company, and not just a franchise brought in by a group of people?
You said, "Haters this is not about me. I am so over this post. B and L have not admitted or apologized to DA, and DA, where are you? Can you just sue them and be done with it?"
You made it about you when you started flaunting your so called wealth. And really, you're awake at this hour? It's past midnight in NY, shouldn't you be in bed? Read DAs post, it's not about getting the money back, I think. It's about the principle of people living large, when they have run away from their responsibilities and obligations.
Btw, I agree with one of the people who posted here. THIS IS A SMEAR CAMPAIGN.
To DA, SHOW PROOF!!! AND have them arrested. And sue the hell out of them. IF what you are accusing them is true.
The only time I can say it's a smear campaign is if confirmed na kung sino ba talaga ang personalities. Again, you are all working on the assumption na si B or si L ito. Confirmed ba talaga na sila? And you all assume DA did not exhaust all possibilities of contacting the other party. I'm sure may paper trail or communication trail ito na hindi na tayo informed about, otherwise, hindi na ito aabot sa isang open letter sa FP. And again, FP would not post it kung walang proof na pinakita sa kanya. So the burden of proof is with FP, if he decides to really show him what exactly transpired in DA vs B and L.
Why do we want DA to sue? Hindi naman ganun kaganda ang legal system natin dito sa Philippines, na ma-sosolve ng isang lawsuit lahat ng pagkakamaling nagawa ng isang partida sa kabila. Minsan, may ibang form of justice na hinahanap ang mga tao. Minsan, ang hinahanap lang ng mga biktima ay ang makita na humbled na ang gumawa ng pagkakamali sa kanya. But by the looks of things, hindi pa rin humbled si B or L, they are living the high life pa rin, so to speak. Sige, naglipana ang tweets nila, pero hindi niyo ba nabasa sa letter na B was contacted via a social network site's messaging system, at inignore lang. Numbers nya mukhang papalit-palit. Classic ugali nga talaga ng estafador.
Ocw signing off. Bored to death.
Next scandal please. This issue is dying already.
The issue is not dying. It was dying several days ago, before the weekend. But thanks to you and your irresponsible comments, or should I say, thanks to showing us your incompetence, the issue is up and running again. We're up to 150+ comments, when other fashion-related threads never even reached 100+. People coming to the home-page would be surprised na may nagcocomment pa, and they will read through things again, just to see what's going on. So really.. thank you. I think you really are born in the US. You are a US citizen. Americans kasi are so stupid. You're as stupid as them. You are not Filipino at all.
I actually agree with New York. Stick to the issues. And people who call themselves OLD RICH and members of the OLIGARCH- I highly doubt people like them care to waste their time here, as I am, because I am enjoying all the comments.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair to New York ALL ANONYMOUS posters here can pretty much say whatever they want. Kaya nga anonymous di ba. So who cares how many Bentleys she owns. I'm sure Ms Old RICH is frothing at the thought. I am more disgusted by OL and 10th GO- so high and mighty and nothing really to show for it, perhaps a house in Forbes. Not even? Pero kung manlait ha. I hope your manicuristas and tinderas and mananahi and lavanderas will be on to your comments so they can see how you really think of them:-)
Parang yung ibang accusers ni B and L, and all the haters na nakisawsaw, EXPOSE yourselves and not hide behind the anonymity this blog affords.
Hahaha poor,poor pahiyang ocw. Testing online to find out if he/she is good enough, only to find out that even the romanticized version of him/her will never be good enough. Now he/she is cursed to just cry him/herself to sleep every night because no matter what is bought with money earned from cleaning bedpans or stealing merchandise it will always not smell right. His/her tears are different from ours though, yung tears nya...PATIS.
ReplyDeleteanong movie ito?!? kinabog ang 'no other woman'..hahaha!
ReplyDeleteOcw should just stop dreaming and go back to selling tsinelas in davao/mindanao
ReplyDeleteThe oligarchs are the ruling families of The Philippines. These are divided into two lists, the old oligarchs of pre-martial law time and the new oligarchs of post-martial law. There are only 3 families that appear prominently on both lists.
ReplyDeleteHI FP - Ive read your other post on the down payment scam of another fashion designer ek - ek , when will they ever stop !? You have P, L,B whos next!?
ReplyDeleteHI DA - never worry because we know L and B we will never let you down - we will be vigilant with this issue and cause !
ReplyDeleteB and L have not been seen lately and have been avoiding to update their whereabouts ha.......guilty - guilty - guilty...........
ReplyDeleteThis only goes to show how aware followers of FP are with this non paying - always hiding pair na si B and L = I dont think FP followers are that stupid to waste their time on NON RELEVANT issues but at the rate its going this ESTAFA CASE has become so relevant and why? Because it has become so rampant in the fashion industry and everyone is just so tired and want to wake and shake up these people to clean up their act! This will never rest promise until we hear that B and L settle this issue once and for all!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteTHis issue will never rest unless B and L pay DA ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePag nakita ko yang dalawang yang magnanakaw na yang B and L duduraan ko sila sa mukha para mapahiya sa mga kaibigan nila na pinagtatawanan din naman sila behind their backs
ReplyDeleteI'm one of their friends and we have stopped talking to B and L. We are all shocked to know that their clothes, bags and shoes belong to other people! We have stopped inviting them to our houses. They might steal more things.
ReplyDeletei heard their relationship is on the rocks because of this post. how sad, mukhang thru the good lang sila and not thru the bad. ang babaw lang pala ng foundation ng love nila. or should i say, a love based on pagnanakaw and pandurugas will not last. naku, kung maghihiwalay man sila, they better check for missing things. baka pati isa't isa, nakawan pa nila.
ReplyDeleteTo confirm what Regina said, yes, I dare not speak to them anymore. B keeps on texting me, I don't want to reply. I don't want to be associated with their cheap and tarnished image. And that crass OCW, if she is who I think she is, she's not even friends with L at all. It's obviously a cheap shot at fame. Go back to the war zone down under where your face belongs. To our other friends, please, save yourselves, and keep away from this cheap, lying, and conniving duo known as B and L.
ReplyDeleteDon't be so quick to make B and L "sesante". Before you do, make sure to check their bags just like any normal katulong before they leave for good.
ReplyDeleteTake note B and L - FashionWeek is days away - for sure kayong dalwa ang topic of conversations ng mga dalahirang sisters natin......plase lang ayusin niyo itong kalokohan na ginawa niyo ok!
ReplyDeleteNakakahiya itong mga comments ni OCW - take note mga second hand citizens lang kayo sa whatever country na pinag ta trabahuhan niyo - and mind you regardless of green cards and whatever visas you have - mga 2nd rate trying hard ang tingin nila sa inyo -promise!
ReplyDeleteBack to B and L - sobra lalong bumaba and mga tingin ko sa inyong dalawa!
DA please lang if ever you get paid by these 2 estafadoras treat mo naman kami ng buffet dinner ha - sobrang sikat mo na dito sa FP ha! ( hahahahahahahahaha )
ReplyDeletejust saw B and L - ang taas pa rin ng ilong ni B kung maka emote = wish ko lang nakakatulog kayong 2 ng mahimbing .......
ReplyDeletemay show ba si L sa fashion week? mag- stage tyo ng walk out during his show! ano kya ang theme ng kanyang collection ngayon? pangangahs with a side of estafa? for those who have tickets to his sho, walk out and boo him! as for B... isaksak mo sa baga mo ang mga make-up brush mo, at hithitin mo foundationg bitbit mo, bka sakaling matauhan ka! estafadora!
ReplyDeleteOCW, where are you? magparamdam ka impaktita, nang masampal ka namin gamit ang islander tsinelas.mthink kimmy sa kmmy dora. hahampasin ka namin ng tsinelas na parang flying ipis! see you in abreeza beeyotch!
ano ba yan, ang kakapal naman ng fez ng dalawang to. hoy, mag-statement na kayo! si P na mukhang undin, nag public apology, kayo pa? baka naman nasobrahan na kayo ng make-up sa mukha at naging manhid na kayo? kapal nyo!
ReplyDeleteang tunay na bakla... may pera! so si B and L, obviously, straight pala! purita mirasol eh! purita!
ReplyDeletepobre ka B! pano ka nakakatulog sa gabi! ang laki ng nakulimbat mong pera! kriminal ka! kriminal! magbayad ka na! nakakahiya ka! to L... hi, love you. what are you doing with a loser like B? sa akin ka na lang, babayaran kita na gamit anga king malinis at mabangong pera. :)
ReplyDeleteIf i remember correctly, L started by selling his designs in P! can you imagine, hiring a salesperson na imbis ibenta ang mga items sa store, bebentahan ka niya ng binurdahang ukay-ukay na jeans, how cheap? bilang empleyado, dinaya nya na ang P, ngayon pa kaya? once a mandaraya, always a mandaraya, and sometimes they graduate to... wait for it... pagiing magnanakaw. so, OCW...obviously, you weren't such a good manager, ergo 2 months ka nga lang talaga magtatagal, dahil nakakalusot ang mga pandarayang ganyan, right under your nose. oh, you're friends nga pala with him, and can vouch for his integrity. what a good judge of integrity you have my dear. ang new york pala, ay nasa davao na? siguro, nakakuha ka ng kickback from L's paglalako of his own cheap designs in P, kaya mega-defend ka ngayon. ikaw pala ang corrupt, at akala namin pamilya lang ng hubby mo ang corrupt. birds of the same feather are indeed the same bird. magnanakaw ka rin.
ReplyDeletesomebody is filing a case against puey quinones. the subpoena was published here sa FP! kelan kaya si DA mag-fifile ng case against B and L? dapat mag-upload na ng subpoena dito sa FP si DA! kaso, kaso, kaso!
ReplyDeleteDA its about time mag post ka na ng subpoena for B and L - dali , we want this issue to be more controversial than PQ!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWar of hte posts sa FP ang saya!
you know, when B and L looks back into this entire fiasco, they're going to realize that they should have done things differently. their mistakes then, have turned into the start of their downfall. they will be forever looked at as estafadors, people will always talk behind their backs. more than getting the money back, this is really the ultimate revenge DA could get. B and L will never get their integrity back, they are branded for life. they are shamed for long as there is internet. sirang-sira na sila. FW has passed and they both know that this year forward, things are different already. shame on you B and L!
ReplyDeleteluceza si B and L sa FW! haha, everywhere people went, bina-back stab sila. kalerkay! aminin na lang kasi nila para matapos na ang isyu, mga echuserang estafadora! plastik nyo day!
ReplyDeletekadiri si B and L. kaya niyo pa rumampa, baon naman pala kayo sa utang!
ReplyDeletei hate B and L, but i pretended to be their friend. with this issue, all bets are off! warla na kung warla! kick them when they're on the way down. i knew may bantot silang tinatago, but never imagined na pam-payatas level ang baho ng sikreto nila. yuuuccck!
ReplyDeletesawang-sawa na maghintay ang fp readers sa sagutin ng dynamic estafa duo! lumabas na kayo. nakaka-dalawang issue na si PQ, kayo, isa pa lang, hindi niyo na malampasan? panahon na umamin! B and L, hello?!
ReplyDeletemaligayang araw ng patay! dont forget to light a candle for the late careers of b and l ;)
ReplyDeleteomg, ram revilla murdered! mag ingat na kayo b and l!
ReplyDeleteang funny naman ng comments dito sa BI na 'to. DA, if you don't have a lawyer yet, I'd like to offer my services, pro bono. I don't want to offend you, coz I'm sure you can afford to pay for my services, but I want to do this for free, just so I can see the look on B and L's face when they're forced to cough up the PhP 500,000. Sana they would respond na. Nakakahiya that we still haven't heard anything from them.
ReplyDeletemga becky! undas na, wichikeli parin paramdam si ate B and si ate L! ano na va? sumagot na kayo! kakalerkay na ang pagtahimik ninyo!
ReplyDeleteSi L had this habit before of "borrowing" from the PS store. He would wear the clothes out without removing the tags and place them back on the sales racks the next day! He would tell me that I could do that too because I also worked at the store next door to PS.
ReplyDeleteb and l are disgusting! lumalabas na lahat ng baho nila!
ReplyDeleteL is so kadiri! how can he go out and face the public? he should just stay home with his baduy designs! can you imagine, ninakawan niya ang ps dati! and until now, nagnanakaw pa rin siya. kadiri ang mga ganitong designers sa manila. dapat kasuhan na talaga ito! dapat wala nang magpatahi dito sa ungas na ito!
ReplyDeletedapat kay b and l duraan pag nakitang rumarampa sa rockwell!
ReplyDeleteyucky si l and b!
ReplyDeletei used to work for rockwell. B and L still have arrears with rockwell, nung nagsara ang shop nila. hindi pa nila nababayaran. hindi lang mga consignors nila ang pinagkakautangan nila, pat yung mall. they truly are criminals at large.
ReplyDeletemy gosh, ang bulok naman ng dalawang baklang ito. and i heard they are in an open relationship. they would do it with another or 2 other people pa ata. how sad no? doesn't L wish he can just go back to the time na he was a with PS, he might've been happier pa noon bago siya nasilaw sa desire na magka-pera
ReplyDeleteang sama naman ng mga tao dito sa post na ito! why are we judging b and l? have they come out na ba na sila talaga ang mga characters sa open letter na ito? let's get the other side of the story muna before we start judging them. i really don't know them, nakikita lang sa fashion week and all, but are they really capable of running away from their debt? are they really capable of stealing clients and clothes from the old PS? are they capable of extra-sexual activities ba talaga?
ReplyDeleteI'm back my dears, and surprised that this issue is not yet over!
ReplyDeleteWhere is L's dress shop? I want to go there para magpatahi ng post-halloween costume, para naman magkaroon ako ng cheap na dress. But, can I tell him to just charge it to the PhP 500,000.00 utang niya kay DA? Maybe that's what DA should do, magpatahi ng mga ka-cheapan na damit kay L para mabayaran ang utang, that is of course if he doesn't mind looking so trying hard in L's "designs", if it's proper to term it as such. Or worst, if he doesn't mind looking like a clown! I mean seriously, have you seen the clueless people attempting to look hip in an L dress?
And as such, why doesn't DA get the services of B for make-up para mabawasan ang utang? That is, if DA doesn't mind contracting a deadly skin disease, what is it called? Ketong? *shudder*
Tata for now Fashion Pulis Cadets, just wanted to say Happy Halloween to B and L, ya? (chanelling that cheap OCW who sells tsinelas). Keep the fight DA, and hi 10th GO. Lunch soon, perhaps?
I agree with Non-biased Reader. Deadma to the nth degree sina B and L because so far, DA has showed no proof or filed any legal action action. So keber ang aura nila. Hanggang walang sampaang nangyayari I don't think they care to respond these allegations. And the people who posted stuff are are all haters of B and L, or have experienced some sort of rejection perhaps? :-) Old Rich: Cheap-looking his clothes may be, is not the issue here. I find your comments full of venom. I wonder why. It's all very intriguing:-) Oh and I disagree with you- this issue is as DEAD as your toenails. B and L have not responded or apologized like PQ. They still go out, wine and dine, have successful jobs/careers, and friends who love them. Most of all, they read all the posts here and laugh their balls out and make comments about you guys on the facebook accounts. As for DA, is he a fictional character? No further action on this matter? Just one "Open Letter"? Looks like a hatchet job to me. FP, do something! Make DA sue, and B and L pay up.
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